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1 hour ago, LSchicago said:

"We know it's 7_0.   790+10=800.  So no, I don't mean one last hp lol".

I guess you misread the post: The last digit could be a 9! Last digit, not second digit.

Whoops.  I thought it meant "last" as in missing digit.

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21 hours ago, YT90SC said:

As long as the car stays significantly lighter than tubby over at Dodge... 

Gotta give credit where it is due.  If it weren't for old tubby over at Dodge, I don't think we would be seeing 700+ hp from this. They made 700+ the new bar.

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2 hours ago, Anthony said:

Gotta give credit where it is due.  If it weren't for old tubby over at Dodge, I don't think we would be seeing 700+ hp from this. They made 700+ the new bar.

100% TRUE. Competition breeds advancement. When Camaro was gone and Challenger had yet to launch, Ford phoned in as much as they could with Mustang because they were the only standing pony.   

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3 minutes ago, YT90SC said:

100% TRUE. Competition breeds advancement. When Camaro was gone and Challenger had yet to launch, Ford phoned in as much as they could with Mustang because they were the only standing pony.   

 You think they phoned it with the 2005? 

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4 minutes ago, jcartwright99 said:

 You think they phoned it with the 2005? 

Until Camaro relaunched and Challenger came back, they rested on their laurels instead of the constant advancement they are *having* to do now. The 05 could have been better, but it didn't *have* to be. The 4.0 and 5R55W/S/N being shining examples. 

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15 minutes ago, YT90SC said:

. The 4.0 and 5R55W/S/N being shining examples. 

Which was a massive improvement over the 3.8 V6 4-speed auto SN95 from the previous year ;)

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3 minutes ago, Twin Turbo said:

Which was a massive improvement over the 3.8 V6 4-speed auto SN95 from the previous year ;)

Far too much revisionist history going on here and looking at back at history with rose colored glasses.

The Fox and SN95 where truly "crappy/cheap" cars-the Platform lasted 25 years and they didn't get around to sorting some of the problems with it till 1994 or so. Yes, it helped relaunched the performance era that died out in the early 1970s-I'll give it that much. 

The refinement of a platform dating back to 1979 was lacking and the 2005 clean sheet was a huge improvement-You don't notice it til you drive one back to back-I had a woman friend who had a 2004 GT convertible I drove a few times then she upgraded to a 2007 GT convertible (I had a 2006 GT coupe at the time)-the 04 GT convertible had cowl shake and generally shaked and rattled horribly and the quality was eh (I had a 98 GT that felt almost the same as my first car..a 86 Escort GT)...then I drove her new 2007 GT convertible and it was just like driving my coupe-no cowl shake or anything-it was a dramatic improvement over the old convertible car. 

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Oh, I agree. I drive a '99 V6 coupe as a daily driver here in the UK, but my pride n joy (garage queen) is an '05 GT.  The S197 was a massive improvement.  The '10+ facelift moved the game on even more (I've driven several) and the S550 was yet another big improvement. I do agree though, that competition is good for the breed and I hope the Mustang continues to improve (now, if only I knew when the next revision was coming!)

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5 hours ago, Twin Turbo said:

Which was a massive improvement over the 3.8 V6 4-speed auto SN95 from the previous year ;)

Depends on what you call define as improvement. More engine output and trans cogs? Agreed 100%. But durability they aren't even on the same planet. The last of the Splitports were pretty sorted out. The Cologne was getting there by 05 but still had issues that plagued it throughout its run. The 4R70W of that era was awesome compared that to the shitshow that the 5R55W/S/N  always was. To make a reliable 5R, you have to rely *heavily* on the aftermarket because Ford never improved its weakest internal points. (OD planet carrier thrust washers, solenoid pack and servo bores) On the plus side, they made a lot of house payments for me. 

I'm not rose coloring the 3 generations of Fox. They were cooked spaghetti as far as the chassis was concerned and the interior quality was poor. But what I am saying is that the 05 car could have been SO much more before the bean counters got ahold of it. And the bean counters would have had less input with pony rivals on the market. 

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