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2 hours ago, jcartwright99 said:

I am going to say this now and it might sound ridiculous. This is just a guess but I think the GT will be the quickest Lincoln ever produced. The MKZ 3.0 is mighty quick and fast but I honestly think 10 speed, RWD bias, plus electric torque will take the cake. It has all the ingredients to to do it. Pissing contest for a 3 row SUV, totally! However, I think it going to blow people away that a Lincoln can do that.

It will have to do 0-60 in under 5 seconds.

http://sportscarstandings.com/Top-10-Fastest-Cars/Lincoln/2010-Lincoln-MKS-EcoBoost-15134

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4 hours ago, jcartwright99 said:

I am going to say this now and it might sound ridiculous. This is just a guess but I think the GT will be the quickest Lincoln ever produced. The MKZ 3.0 is mighty quick and fast but I honestly think 10 speed, RWD bias, plus electric torque will take the cake. It has all the ingredients to to do it. Pissing contest for a 3 row SUV, totally! However, I think it going to blow people away that a Lincoln can do that.

..and the fun part about the GT is that it's an absolute "sleeper". Nothing on the outside of this vehicle is screaming 450 HP/600 lb.-ft. torque at you - not even the wheels.😁

My favorite styling-combo - and it's a GT:

Lincoln Aviator BL GT

This looks like luxury - but you can't even guess the performance....

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58 minutes ago, EcoBoost said:

Do you think this is still up to date?

I don't see the 2010 MKS outperforming the current MKZ 3.0TT AWD.

Car and Driver has the MKZ 3.0T AWD doing 0-60 in 4.8 seconds.

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1 hour ago, bbf2530 said:

Car and Driver has the MKZ 3.0T AWD doing 0-60 in 4.8 seconds.

Thanks - that's what I thought..

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2 hours ago, bbf2530 said:

Car and Driver has the MKZ 3.0T AWD doing 0-60 in 4.8 seconds.

So the Aviator will have to be under 4.8  0-60 to be the fastest Lincoln - going to be tough.

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12 hours ago, blwnsmoke said:

 

No way, the GT will kick its butt.  Was referring to the standard Aviator as he mentions .  A Build and Price on the GT requires the GT1 package to be similarly equipped as the ST which puts it at $78,000.  That's almost $20,000 more in price.  You can't compare the two.

 

My post was more referencing his quote of "I've seen both in person now and there's plenty of "extra" substance to justify the Aviator's pricing,"

I think the aviator plug in will be quicker than the explorer st and the regular aviator, that should have a similar acceleration.

 

 

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59 minutes ago, rothen said:

I think the aviator plug in will be quicker than the explorer st and the regular aviator, that should have a similar acceleration.

Of course it will be, It has 50 more hp and at least 185 more torque.  As I already said above, it is also almost $20k more.  You can't compare the two.

 

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12 hours ago, msm859 said:

So the Aviator will have to be under 4.8  0-60 to be the fastest Lincoln - going to be tough.

While it will be close, I don't think it will as tough as you think. What makes Tesla's fast? It's having all that torque on tap without having to wait....no spooling turbo's required. If they have tuned it for performance (vs FE), which some on here are saying, then I have no doubt they are going to give a lot of electric assist on start. If Ford is saying the ST is 5.5 (probably a little conservative), then adding 50hp and 200lb/ft of torque should take home much off of that? My guess ST will hit 60 5.3 and GT will be in the mid to high 4's. Probably a high 13 quarter.

Again, just my guess but I am sticking to it. 

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17 minutes ago, blwnsmoke said:

^^^  I agree.  I am sure 1 of the 7 drive modes (Sport?) will have 100% full electric assist with the gas engine and it will really move off the line.

I think that mode is called "Excite".   I am really waiting on what the actual hp and torque of the electric motor is.  It is not as simple as adding the ICE and electric motor.   It will need a lot more than 50 hp to travel in all electric mode.

 

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12 minutes ago, msm859 said:

I think that mode is called "Excite".   I am really waiting on what the actual hp and torque of the electric motor is.  It is not as simple as adding the ICE and electric motor.   It will need a lot more than 50 hp to travel in all electric mode.

 

Maybe the 3.0 will have a detuned version in the GT.  Just like the Platinum Explorer has the same 3.0 as the ST but has 365HP instead of 400HP.  If the GT is detuned, that means more HP for the electric motor to hit the 450HP.

Edited by blwnsmoke

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