rperez817 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, msm859 said: I don't think NASA data supports a cooling because of what might be happening in Duluth Minn. in the month of May 2019. https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/ Or Truckee, California. It snowed there this morning. But that won't stop Mary Nichols and CARB from planning appropriate vehicle emissions regulations for the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 On 5/18/2019 at 7:02 PM, snooter said: You do know it snowed 11" in duluth minnestoa on may 9th????...is crazy mary blaming global warming for causing a cooling effect now??? 8" in South Metro Denver on the evening of May 20th...Dang! There go the lovely pepper plants I put in the garden over the weekend! Of course the left will blame global warming for this, now that global warming includes cold stuff too. But in reality, when the evening news looks at 100 year history, this is not unusual at all for this part of the country. Its just the 25 year olds who think 1 quarter century is all of world history, it's not their fault entirely, that is what our education system intended for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 46 minutes ago, msm859 said: No. I don't think NASA data supports a cooling because of what might be happening in Duluth Minn. in the month of May 2019. https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/ Maybe NASA should get back to launching rockets so we don't need to rely on Russia to get our stuff up into space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) Seems the biggest export from California these days is Californians - fleeing high taxes and regulations. Problem is, they are moving to formerly libertarian places like the inter-mountain west, then forget why they moved. They pile in then vote for more government and higher taxes! Edited May 21, 2019 by Kev-Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kev-Mo said: Seems the biggest export from California these days is Californians - fleeing high taxes and regulations. Problem is, they are moving to formerly libertarian places like the inter-mountain west, then forget why they moved. They pile in then vote for more government and higher taxes! Three inter-mountain west states have adopted California (CARB) standards for vehicle emissions at some point. Arizona, Colorado, and New Mexico. Colorado still has those standards. That state's governor issued an executive order for this in 2018. Arizona and New Mexico repealed the use of CARB standards about 5-6 years ago. I don't think Californians who moved to those states had much to do with either adopting the CARB standards, or in Arizona's and New Mexico's case, eventually repealing them. Several other states in the Northeast like New York, Massachusetts, and Connecticut also adhere to the California standards currently. As far as I know not too many Californians move to the Northeast. Anyway, it's not a matter of "more government" in this case. But a choice of two sets of regulations for vehicle emissions. Federal or California (CARB). These two standards actually converged about 10 years ago. But the current administration weakened the federal standards. California (and the states that choose to follow California standards) are moving forward with their original plans. That's what Mary Nichols' comments in the OP article are about. Edited May 21, 2019 by rperez817 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msm859 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Kev-Mo said: Seems the biggest export from California these days is Californians - fleeing high taxes and regulations. Problem is, they are moving to formerly libertarian places like the inter-mountain west, then forget why they moved. They pile in then vote for more government and higher taxes! Your conclusion is a non sequitur and actually disproves your theory as to why people are moving. The reality is it is expensive in CA and some can't make it. Most of those moving out seem to be those with only a high school education while college educated and more affluent are moving in. https://lao.ca.gov/laoecontax/article/detail/265 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, msm859 said: Your conclusion is a non sequitur and actually disproves your theory as to why people are moving. The reality is it is expensive in CA and some can't make it. Most of those moving out seem to be those with only a high school education while college educated and more affluent are moving in. https://lao.ca.gov/laoecontax/article/detail/265 Very interesting info, thanks for sharing this msm859 sir. One of my neighbors in Fort Worth moved here from Alameda, California (near Oakland). Not necessarily because of high taxes or regulations in California, but simply because he had relatives in the DFW Metroplex and because he could buy a home for his family at a much lower cost in Fort Worth. Edited May 21, 2019 by rperez817 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictor Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 This topic seems to move from a discussion of the wisdom of an electric car policy to a battle fo the states, maybe should be closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 Locked...going too political/off topic for its own good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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