fordtech1 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 If they get those headlamps to pass this would be even better. I don’t see anything wrong with the headlights. But I haven’t compared them to a “passing” headlamp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailhiker Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, fordtech1 said: If they get those headlamps to pass this would be even better. I don’t see anything wrong with the headlights. But I haven’t compared them to a “passing” headlamp. The only headlights that pass are the same ones that blind the oncoming traffic so badly that it increases the likelihood that they will crash right into you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Trailhiker said: The only headlights that pass are the same ones that blind the oncoming traffic so badly that it increases the likelihood that they will crash right into you. No sir. All cars and light trucks with headlamps rated "good" by IIHS must meet both of these criteria. 1. "Sufficient reach of a vehicle's headlights as the vehicle travels straight and on curves" 2. "Glare for oncoming vehicles, measured for low beams in each scenario, does not exceed a set threshold" For pickup trucks tested by IIHS, only the LED headlamps on Honda Ridgeline met both. Protocol and formulas for IIHS headlight testing attached. Headlight test and rating protocol (v3 July 2018).pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Trailhiker said: The only headlights that pass are the same ones that blind the oncoming traffic so badly that it increases the likelihood that they will crash right into you. As someone who drives home from work exclusively at night. I strongly agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Ford performed the best by far, but the Honda was the only one to receive "Top Safety Pick" Please help me understand how on earth that can be rationalized. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Kev-Mo said: Ford performed the best by far, but the Honda was the only one to receive "Top Safety Pick" Please help me understand how on earth that can be rationalized. It's what fordtech1 mentioned in the original post. It's not just crash test results, but crash prevention stuff too. That includes headlamp performance. The headlamps on F-150 are inadequate, whether you get the halogen or LED lamps. Here are requirements for 2019 "Top Safety Pick". Honda Ridgeline met all of those. Ford F-150 did not meet the "acceptable or good headling rating" requirement. Quote "To qualify for 2019 Top Safety Pick, a vehicle must earn good ratings in the driver-side small overlap front, moderate overlap front, side, roof strength and head restraint tests, as well as an acceptable or good rating in the passenger-side small overlap front test. It also must earn an advanced or superior rating for front crash prevention and an acceptable or good headlight rating." [/quote] Edited March 21, 2019 by rperez817 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I think the top safety pick and top safety pick + made the most sense. So you give a vehicle that structurally protects better in an accident a lesser grade than one that just gets and acceptable in same accident because of headlamps? The IIHS isn’t worried about better cars. They are just worried about lowering medical claims. Yet, make manufacturers install $1500 a piece headlamps, which raise premiums. Guess who wins in this scenario? The cars, they can put a price on and pay claims without worry because they are valued. But medical, they can’t put a price on pain and suffering. So raise premiums to cover expensive cars. But in turn they lower their risk of bodily injury claims. Sounds like a casino, the house always wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Super News Ticker Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Insurance Institute for Highway Safety rates the 2019 Ford F-150 as the only truck to earn the top-tier good rating in every category, and the best performing truck among 11 pickups evaluated in passenger-side small overlap front crash testing View the full article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 38 minutes ago, fordtech1 said: I think the top safety pick and top safety pick + made the most sense. So you give a vehicle that structurally protects better in an accident a lesser grade than one that just gets and acceptable in same accident because of headlamps? Of course - how else can they stay relavant if they have nothing to complain about? I have no issue with rating headlamps but to make it more important than the other stuff is ridiculous. It only affects accidents at night and furthermore it only affects accidents with things that aren’t already lighted (not other cars unless they have no lights). And only if your speed exceeds your ability to stop or avoid something within your headlamps. I think that’s a tiny tiny tiny percentage of accidents and virtually no fatalities. It won’t help deer jumping out in front of the vehicle at the last minute. The only scenario I can really come up with is something in the road and you’e going really fast. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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