RIcky Ranger Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 My sister is replacing her 20 year old Expedition. She is sad because it has been the best vehicle she has ever owned. She is looking at getting another 4X4 Expedition. Any recommendations, thoughts, or opinions about getting a a new one verses a slightly used one is greatly appreciated. Yes, cost is a major consideration. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 What is she looking at? I think better question is does she want a 3rd gen or 4th gen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIcky Ranger Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 She is open minded as to which gen. I rented a 4th gen for a road trip last September and really liked it a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Ill try my best to compile a good comparison. I traded my 09 nav for an 18 expy. I have driven post face lift 3rd gens in most configs as well. For reliability purposes, 12 to 14s are the way to go because they still use the 5.4 v8 and have most every mechanical bug ironed out. 15+ gained new electronics and the 3.5l v6 which is a great engine. The first gen of the v6 is reliable enough, but still had kinks. They also feel about the same in regards to interior unless you get the platinum which gained better seats, leather trimmed interior. Also, ccd is a rele nice option and makes it one of the smoother riding cars. 4th gen to me is a superior product. Its way more roomy, has a lot of family friendly features, and wholly comfy. The 3.5l is the 2nd gen so too early for reliability. Also. 1st run 18s were very problematic quality wise including my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dlcorbett said: For reliability purposes, 12 to 14s are the way to go because they still use the 5.4 v8 and have most every mechanical bug ironed out. 15+ gained new electronics and the 3.5l v6 which is a great engine. The first gen of the v6 is reliable enough, but still had kinks. They also feel about the same in regards to interior unless you get the platinum which gained better seats, leather trimmed interior. The 5.4L still has phaser issues as well as the high mileage issues with the entire cam drive system. 2 hours ago, Dlcorbett said: 4th gen to me is a superior product. Its way more roomy, has a lot of family friendly features, and wholly comfy. The 3.5l is the 2nd gen so too early for reliability. Also. 1st run 18s were very problematic quality wise including my own. My daughter has a '12 Expedition EL. She has had a couple of what I consider "odd" component failure including blown rear shock, transmission speed sensor/lead frame failure and belt tensioner, on a vehicle with only 80k. None of these were overly expensive repairs (I am still ticked off because the transmission speed sensor/lead frame failure is now a recall, but only on F150), but it is only 7 years old. We live in the "rust belt", so I really want her next Expedition to have an aluminum body (despite the fact that she has the classic aluminum rear hack paint peeling problem). Edited March 6, 2019 by theoldwizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIcky Ranger Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 Thank you for all the insights. Now I know what to look for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Cant rele go wrong. I went with 4th gen becuz the third gens were too overpriced new. Now though you can probably find some good deals on low mileage rentals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIcky Ranger Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 I’m looking at the gen 3s now. There are some dood deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 If u can strive for a platinum. You may find some good third gen navi deals as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msm859 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 On 3/5/2019 at 8:22 PM, RIcky Ranger said: She is open minded as to which gen. I rented a 4th gen for a road trip last September and really liked it a lot. Well I am going to buck the trend here and say it is a no brainer - 4th generation. You said she kept her last Expedition for 20 years. The 3rd generation came out in 2007 - over 10 years ago. Assuming she is going to keep this "new" one again for 20 years or so she should get the latest generation which will have dramatic improvements. If she can find a used one great although even new when amortized over 20 years will not be bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display Name Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Compared to my 2006, the 2018 seems leaps and bounds better. The 4th gens (2018+) are expensive though, even in the used market right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, Display Name said: Compared to my 2006, the 2018 seems leaps and bounds better. The 4th gens (2018+) are expensive though, even in the used market right now. You bring up a good point, the 2015-2017's are darn near reasonably priced in the resale market. Not sure quite why, though,,,, HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 They changed the warranty regarding aluminum corrosion (and the paint failure it cause) in 2016MY. I would not buy anything older than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display Name Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 16 hours ago, HotRunrGuy said: You bring up a good point, the 2015-2017's are darn near reasonably priced in the resale market. Not sure quite why, though,,,, HRG It's probably because the new gen has been out now for nearly two years. I've been looking at purchasing a used "something" for the last three years. First, I was considering a 2016 Explorer Sport with 301a and they were going for high $30's to low $40's. Now you can get a 2018 Explorer Sport (minus 301a but has cooled seats) for low to mid $30's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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