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Industry Sales Number for January 2019

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Nice numbers for Lincoln, and Ford for that matter.  Hopefully jpd comes along with his data soon ;)

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Lincoln is strong and with a big growth. I want to follow these numbers when Aviator it's on sale

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Well remember Ford isn't going to post monthy sales, and is following GM's lead. But industry analysts have stated GM fell 7 percent, and Ford jumped up 7 percent.

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4 minutes ago, ANTAUS said:

Well remember Ford isn't going to post monthy sales, and is following GM's lead. But industry analysts have stated GM fell 7 percent, and Ford jumped up 7 percent.

There's real anger with GM over the plant closures 

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Tesla was the #1 luxury car brand in the U.S. last month. Very impressive. Lincoln had a nice growth spurt in January 2019 too. Cadillac has the potential to grow sales as well with its refreshed vehicle lineup. Go team USA!

 

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Does the Ford figure include trucks?  Why aren't GM divisions broken down?

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22 hours ago, rperez817 said:

Tesla was the #1 luxury car brand in the U.S. last month. Very impressive.

Yeah...all those "luxury" Model 3 sales made a big difference in the percentage gain...

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2 hours ago, twintornados said:

Yeah...all those "luxury" Model 3 sales made a big difference in the percentage gain...

I believe Audi, BMW and Mercedes would call them luxury sales, since the Model 3 seems to be taking away sales from them.

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Cascada 103
LaCrosse 365
Regal 733
Verano 1

Enclave 2,743
Encore 5,425
Envision 1,853

ATS 201
CT6 548
CTS 524
XTS 659

Escalade 1,331
Escalade ESV 932
XT4 1,817
XT5 3,278


Bolt 1,505
Camaro 2,340
Corvette 800
Cruze 4,712
Impala 1,729
Malibu 8,264
Sonic 1,067
Spark 1,941
Volt 1,090

Blazer 1,863
City Express 63
Colorado 6,999
Equinox 23,183
Express van 4,782
Silverado 41,255
Suburban 2,972
Tahoe 6,173
Traverse 10,741
Trax 4,518

Acadia 5,225
Canyon 1,550
Savana van 809
Sierra 17,573
Terrain 6,658
Yukon 3,644
Yukon XL 2,891

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24 minutes ago, jpd80 said:

Cascada 103
LaCrosse 365
Regal 733
Verano 1

Enclave 2,743
Encore 5,425
Envision 1,853

ATS 201
CT6 548
CTS 524
XTS 659

Escalade 1,331
Escalade ESV 932
XT4 1,817
XT5 3,278


Bolt 1,505
Camaro 2,340
Corvette 800
Cruze 4,712
Impala 1,729
Malibu 8,264
Sonic 1,067
Spark 1,941
Volt 1,090

Blazer 1,863
City Express 63
Colorado 6,999
Equinox 23,183
Express van 4,782
Silverado 41,255
Suburban 2,972
Tahoe 6,173
Traverse 10,741
Trax 4,518

Acadia 5,225
Canyon 1,550
Savana van 809
Sierra 17,573
Terrain 6,658
Yukon 3,644
Yukon XL 2,891

Wow... Cadillac and Buick car sales are in a tailspin. 

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12 hours ago, Joe771476 said:

Does the Ford figure include trucks?  Why aren't GM divisions broken down?

The GM numbers are estimates (IIRC, GM is no longer doing monthly sales reporting). That's what the "**" next to the name means.

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Sales normally drop this time of the year with very cold weather in the Northern states, Cadillac may have pulled forward a lot of sales in December...

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On 2/2/2019 at 12:33 PM, rperez817 said:

Tesla was the #1 luxury car brand in the U.S. last month. Very impressive. Lincoln had a nice growth spurt in January 2019 too. Cadillac has the potential to grow sales as well with its refreshed vehicle lineup. Go team USA!

In the story's comments, someone said that a different source was reporting ~7K sales for Tesla. 

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7 minutes ago, SoonerLS said:

In the story's comments, someone said that a different source was reporting ~7K sales for Tesla. 

Model 3.........28,000

Model S...........2,100

Model x ..........1,800

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16 hours ago, msm859 said:

I believe Audi, BMW and Mercedes would call them luxury sales, since the Model 3 seems to be taking away sales from them.

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20 hours ago, msm859 said:

I believe Audi, BMW and Mercedes would call them luxury sales, since the Model 3 seems to be taking away sales from them.

The Honda Civic and Accord are also commonly traded in for Teslas.

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22 hours ago, twintornados said:

Yeah...all those "luxury" Model 3 sales made a big difference in the percentage gain...

Tesla Model 3, like other Tesla brand automobiles, is a luxury car by any definition. 

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5 minutes ago, rperez817 said:

Tesla Model 3, like other Tesla brand automobiles, is a luxury car by any definition. 

I'm just gonna leave this right here...

https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/31/16069960/tesla-model-3-not-luxury-car-options-model-s

 

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If you purchase a standard Tesla Model 3, the seats must be manually adjusted, as will the steering column. The side mirrors aren’t powered or heated, and there’s no auto dimming. There are no LED fog lamps, and if you want a covered storage area in the center console, you must pay extra. Unless you spend $5,000 for the Premium Upgrade, you’re essentially getting the interior of a base model Toyota Camry. (To be fair, the Camry comes standard with a covered center console.)

 

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1 hour ago, rperez817 said:

Tesla Model 3, like other Tesla brand automobiles, is a luxury car by any definition. 

 

if you want to play that game, most F-series pickups are luxury vehicles based on price. 

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7 minutes ago, silvrsvt said:

 

if you want to play that game, most F-series pickups are luxury vehicles based on price. 

Well I wouldn't say the definition is just price.  And now you are comparing apples to oranges or trucks to cars. Perhaps "luxury" isn't the right term.  But for the traditional "luxury" auto makers it doesn't really matter if this new "tech" car is stealing their "luxury" sales.  It appears that people who have $50k+ to spend on cars are considering "tech" more important then traditional "luxury".  That should be telling to manufacturers who want to compete in that "market".

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1 hour ago, twintornados said:

If you purchase a standard Tesla Model 3, the seats must be manually adjusted, as will the steering column. The side mirrors aren’t powered or heated, and there’s no auto dimming. There are no LED fog lamps, and if you want a covered storage area in the center console, you must pay extra. Unless you spend $5,000 for the Premium Upgrade, you’re essentially getting the interior of a base model Toyota Camry. (To be fair, the Camry comes standard with a covered center console.

All Tesla Model 3 sold have the Premium Upgrade package. The "basic" Model 3 without Premium Upgrade package (which is still a luxury car) won't be available until later in 2019.

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20 minutes ago, msm859 said:

Well I wouldn't say the definition is just price.  And now you are comparing apples to oranges or trucks to cars. Perhaps "luxury" isn't the right term.  But for the traditional "luxury" auto makers it doesn't really matter if this new "tech" car is stealing their "luxury" sales.  It appears that people who have $50k+ to spend on cars are considering "tech" more important then traditional "luxury".  That should be telling to manufacturers who want to compete in that "market".


An old definition of luxury was cars that cost more then 30K a year-I'm sure its north of 40K now, since the "average" car price is in the low 30s these days. 

The problem is that the "luxury" auto definition isn't hard and fast either-I wouldn't put Tesla as a Luxury car maker vs Audi/MB/BMW either. 

There is a lot of tech in the F-series and that tech drives it over that 50K price point also, like the Tesla. I wouldn't call my $47K SHO a luxury car either-but yet it has everything but the cashe of an luxury performance sedan from those makes a lower price point. 

Telsa is drawing sales from people who bought higher end Camrys and Accords and with various incentives could justfiy buying a Model 3 and some gas savings. My wife's supervisor did that and admited the only way he could afford it was because of that (and his wife makes bank too) and hopefully gas savings from commuting 40-50 miles one way. 

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