silvrsvt Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 http://www.thedrive.com/news/26044/ford-is-gearing-up-to-refresh-its-small-crossover-lineup Seems like someone has been crusing the forums here lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.I. Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 So, we will have all these crossovers/SUVs in Europe: Ka+ Active Fiesta Active EcoSport Small C-Crossover (Puma?) Focus Active Baby Bronco? Kuga Edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) oh boy, there really wasn’t that much in the op article that we didn’t already know but they still haven’t put trucklet and companion utility together in Mexico, they still need to keep reading our posts, how else are we going to stay informed LOL Edited January 22, 2019 by jpd80 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 This article was pretty stupid considering we've seen 8,000 spy shots of the new Escape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 59 minutes ago, rmc523 said: This article was pretty stupid considering we've seen 8,000 spy shots of the new Escape. And it's 7 months out from production, and that information is very easily obtained without access to the ford dealer portal Edited January 22, 2019 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 5 hours ago, falconlover 1 said: So, we will have all these crossovers/SUVs in Europe: Ka+ Active Fiesta Active EcoSport Small C-Crossover (Puma?) Focus Active Baby Bronco? Kuga Edge Well Ford Europe announced an all-new Import they will show in April. What it is? Who knows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.I. Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 8 hours ago, ausrutherford said: Well Ford Europe announced an all-new Import they will show in April. What it is? Who knows... New import in Europe? The only new SUV/crossover that Europe can import is the new Explorer. The Kuga, that will be completly new, is not an imported model, it is builded here. The Explorer can be usefull to replace the people movers that nobody is buying rigth now: S-Max and Galaxie, and will compete with some others "big" european SUVs like the Land Rover Discovery and VW Touareg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 12 hours ago, ausrutherford said: Well Ford Europe announced an all-new Import they will show in April. What it is? Who knows... Model E Quote Ford has said its first electric car to designed from the ground up will be an SUV and will arrive in Europe in 2020. The car is said to be inspired by the Mustang. .......https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/ford-readies-new-small-suv-europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 13 hours ago, ausrutherford said: Well Ford Europe announced an all-new Import they will show in April. What it is? Who knows... Three row Edge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, jpd80 said: Model E I don't think the Model E will be ready to go till Summer of next year, which tehcinally makes it a 2021. I'm going to assume we'll see it at LA Auto show, if Ford doesn't do some thing seperatily for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: I don't think the Model E will be ready to go till Summer of next year, which tehcinally makes it a 2021. I'm going to assume we'll see it at LA Auto show, if Ford doesn't do some thing seperatily for it. Correct and that's what the article said, arriving in Europe in 2020 so maybe they show Model E before the April European event... Edited January 23, 2019 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 8 hours ago, falconlover 1 said: New import in Europe? The only new SUV/crossover that Europe can import is the new Explorer. The Kuga, that will be completly new, is not an imported model, it is builded built here. The Explorer can be usefull to replace the people movers that nobody is buying rigth now: S-Max and Galaxie, and will compete with some others "big" european SUVs like the Land Rover Discovery and VW Touareg FTFY. Couldn't help myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) No Explorer for Europe, CAP Will be flat out supplying North America with Explorer, PIU and Aviator alittle bird told me that no euro version developed, North America keeps all good products for itself and the suits wonder why global crashes and burns, unbelievable Edited January 24, 2019 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/22/2019 at 4:50 PM, ausrutherford said: Well Ford Europe announced an all-new Import they will show in April. What it is? Who knows... Amarok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pffan1990 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 hours ago, jpd80 said: No Explorer for Europe, CAP Will be flat out supplying North America with Explorer, PIU and Aviator alittle bird told me that no euro version developed, North America keeps all good products for itself and the suits wonder why global crashes and burns, unbelievable I figured the Explorer/Aviator is North America only since it's pretty big vehicle(s). It's bigger than the Mondeo which I understand is not selling much in Europe (though to be fair, it's a pretty old car). What I don't understand is that Bronco and Baby Bronco (Maverick) are only LHD markets which I thought would have been designed and engineered for RHD from the beginning. So yeah, many good products but only for NA and then executives wonder why Ford isn't doing good globally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 As for the Bronco-isn’t that market already served by Everest? It’s not like The Bronco has a worldwide appeal like the Mustang. The baby Bronco is a little bit puzzling, but given how many C based products we are getting, it’s going to be overkill. Not to mention B sized products would be a bit more welcome in overseas markets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, silvrsvt said: As for the Bronco-isn’t that market already served by Everest? It’s not like The Bronco has a worldwide appeal like the Mustang. The baby Bronco is a little bit puzzling, but given how many C based products we are getting, it’s going to be overkill. Not to mention B sized products would be a bit more welcome in overseas markets They would be better off correcting any short comings with Everest in 2023, to me it looks a little humpty dumpty from the rear, Bronco elements baked into skeleton will do wonders for NG Everest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pffan1990 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, silvrsvt said: As for the Bronco-isn’t that market already served by Everest? It’s not like The Bronco has a worldwide appeal like the Mustang. The baby Bronco is a little bit puzzling, but given how many C based products we are getting, it’s going to be overkill. Not to mention B sized products would be a bit more welcome in overseas markets I had thought that Bronco was announced to be a global vehicle due to appeal. I seem to recall someone from Ford saying that but I now can't find sources confirming that so it's probably something I thought I heard or just wishful thinking of my own. But yes, if Ford could just apply some features of the Bronco onto the next generation Everest then I guess that would cover the global markets. There's also the Troller too in Brazil that I'm thinking may be redesigned onto the new T6 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pffan1990 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Also, what is this about some of you all here mentioning a new vehicle for Europe in April? I thought that was the Maverick reveal as timing would be correct if meant to go on sale later this year or late December as latest. Clearly not to be revealed at Geneva since Ford is bailing out this year so stand-alone event? Any articles with more info about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pffan1990 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I read the articles above and may be further confused here. Is it the Puma that is being shown in April in Europe? Because I just found this article below doing a quick Google check. Not sure how reliable Auto Revolution is but they say that Ford is apparently ready to show the Mach-E 'Mustang-inspired electric crossover' in April. New York Auto Show? Fitting seeing how first press day is April 17 and that Mustang connection there. I thought it is still a long way off for the Mach-E. So looks like lots of other people are confused as to what and when is coming as I am. https://www.autoevolution.com/news/ford-electric-crossover-coming-in-april-2019-new-evs-coming-to-europe-131684.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, pffan1990 said: Also, what is this about some of you all here mentioning a new vehicle for Europe in April? I thought that was the Maverick reveal as timing would be correct if meant to go on sale later this year or late December as latest. Clearly not to be revealed at Geneva since Ford is bailing out this year so stand-alone event? Any articles with more info about this? "Imported Vehicles: A niche portfolio of imported iconic nameplates for Europe that builds on the heritage of the Ford brand will include Mustang, Edge, and another SUV to be revealed in April, along with an all-new Mustang-inspired full-electric performance utility in 2020." https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/feu/en/news/2019/01/10/ford-to-strengthen-european-competitive-position-and-profitabili.html All we know is that it is NOT the Mach E. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, pffan1990 said: I read the articles above and may be further confused here. Is it the Puma that is being shown in April in Europe? Because I just found this article below doing a quick Google check. Not sure how reliable Auto Revolution is but they say that Ford is apparently ready to show the Mach-E 'Mustang-inspired electric crossover' in April. New York Auto Show? Fitting seeing how first press day is April 17 and that Mustang connection there. I thought it is still a long way off for the Mach-E. So looks like lots of other people are confused as to what and when is coming as I am. https://www.autoevolution.com/news/ford-electric-crossover-coming-in-april-2019-new-evs-coming-to-europe-131684.html See my post above. The imported SUV is not the Mach E. Also, the Puma is going to be built in Romania, so that would not be considered an import. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 I'm assuming this is the timing of new products-at least in NA centric look: Cuautitlán Assembly-Fiesta goes out of production this May or summer Maverick and Mach E launch late this year or till next summer Michigan Truck Plant Bronco goes into production late 2020 Hermosillo: Fusion/MKZ production winds down Summer 2021? Compact Pickup Short C/EcoSport Replacement Something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, pffan1990 said: I had thought that Bronco was announced to be a global vehicle due to appeal. I seem to recall someone from Ford saying that but I now can't find sources confirming that so it's probably something I thought I heard or just wishful thinking of my own. But yes, if Ford could just apply some features of the Bronco onto the next generation Everest then I guess that would cover the global markets. There's also the Troller too in Brazil that I'm thinking may be redesigned onto the new T6 as well. You are correct. I vividly remember Joe Hinrichs on stage at NAIAS in 2017 saying the Bronco was going global. It's one of the reasons I probably won't be buying a new Ford for a while. You can forget Troller. It's as good as gone. Edited January 25, 2019 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, silvrsvt said: I'm assuming this is the timing of new products-at least in NA centric look: Cuautitlán Assembly-Fiesta goes out of production this May or summer Maverick and Mach E launch late this year or till next summer Michigan Truck Plant Bronco goes into production late 2020 Hermosillo: Fusion/MKZ production winds down Summer 2021? Compact Pickup Short C/EcoSport Replacement Something else? This looks about right except the SUV to be made at Hermosillio is CX758 the companion to the compact pickup P758. Given the dimension roughly in line with Transit Connect and longer wheelbase, I think this utility is going to be a 7 seater so a Long C, not a Short C. The replacement for EcoSport in North America is probably the Fiesta based "Puma" that was spotted in another thread. Not sure now where it will be sourced from right now. Ford's Short C strategy remains unclear. I thought it was going to be Maverick but the leak photo of Maverick suggest it is roughly the same size as Escape just with more butch look. Maybe the Short C vehicle was always going to be Focus Active... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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