akirby Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I just realized if those numbers turn out to be accurate, the 2.3 in the Explorer 4WD gets better fuel economy than the Ranger 4x4 with basically the same drivetrain despite being bigger and (I think) heavier Explorer is more aerodynamic and probably has a numerically lower axle ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I just realized if those numbers turn out to be accurate, the 2.3 in the Explorer 4WD gets better fuel economy than the Ranger 4x4 with basically the same drivetrain despite being bigger and (I think) heavier. Thats incredible. I wonder if that's a function of the gear ratio? The 2020 Explorer is listed as using a 3.58, the 2019 Ranger uses a 3.73. HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 13 hours ago, blwnsmoke said: So here is a Platinum sticker courtesy of the same member that found the 2.3. 18/24/20 combined. And the ST which has the same mpg rating Thats pretty impressive considering the 3.5TT Sport is rated at 16/22/18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 10 hours ago, akirby said: Explorer is more aerodynamic and probably has a numerically lower axle ratio. The 2.3 and 3.3 Hybrid use the 3.58 axle. The 3.0 uses a 3.31. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: Thats pretty impressive considering the 3.5TT Sport is rated at 16/22/18 Yeah, I agree. 2mpg improvement in all areas with a lot more power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, blwnsmoke said: The 2.3 and 3.3 Hybrid use the 3.58 axle. Compared to the Ranger 3.73. Not a huge difference but it does contribute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) What's interesting now is trying to figure out the gas tank size. The order guide states 20.2 gallons on the base and with all higher models, it is the Base + etc. Nowhere does it mention anything different. If you look at the Ford manual for the 2020 Explorer, it says 20.2 gallons for all models. http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/Catalog/owner_information/2020-Ford-Explorer-GasHEV-Owners-Manual-version-2_om_EN-US_06_2019.pdf If you go to Ford.com and look at the specs, it says the XLT and Limited have a 17.9 gallon tank and the ST/Platinum have a 20.2 gallon tank. One of the biggest complaints on the Explorer Forum is the 18.6 gallon tank (or right about that) and everyone wishes it was bigger. A couple extra gallons will certainly help. Now I'd think with the 2.3 having better fuel economy as well as the Hybrid, maybe they went smaller to save on weight being they will be able to go almost as far as the Platinum/ST with the larger tank?? Edited June 3, 2019 by blwnsmoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 18 hours ago, blwnsmoke said: So here is a Platinum sticker courtesy of the same member that found the 2.3. 18/24/20 combined. And the ST which has the same mpg rating Hm. Those links aren't working, but still good numbers! 3 hours ago, blwnsmoke said: What's interesting now is trying to figure out the gas tank size. The order guide states 20.2 gallons on the base and with all higher models, it is the Base + etc. Nowhere does it mention anything different. If you look at the Ford manual for the 2020 Explorer, it says 20.2 gallons for all models. http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/Catalog/owner_information/2020-Ford-Explorer-GasHEV-Owners-Manual-version-2_om_EN-US_06_2019.pdf If you go to Ford.com and look at the specs, it says the XLT and Limited have a 17.9 gallon tank and the ST/Platinum have a 20.2 gallon tank. One of the biggest complaints on the Explorer Forum is the 18.6 gallon tank (or right about that) and everyone wishes it was bigger. A couple extra gallons will certainly help. Now I'd think with the 2.3 having better fuel economy as well as the Hybrid, maybe they went smaller to save on weight being they will be able to go almost as far as the Platinum/ST with the larger tank?? I can't imagine they'd have different size tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Hm. Those links aren't working, but still good numbers! I can't imagine they'd have different size tanks. Wierd, the window sticker pictures were working yesterday. I'll fix it when I get home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 windowsticker (7).pdf windowsticker (6).pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: I can't imagine they'd have different size tanks. AWD and FWD Fusion and Edge had different size tanks in the past. Not sure about the current ones. Sometimes it's just about not having enough space. Edited June 3, 2019 by akirby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, akirby said: AWD and FWD Fusion and Edge had different size tanks in the past. Not sure about the current ones. Sometimes it's just about not having enough space. Really? Didn't realize that. I know my Flex's is somewhere in the 18-20 range, it's AWD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Really? Didn't realize that. I know my Flex's is somewhere in the 18-20 range, it's AWD. Just checked the 2019 Edge - FWD is 18.4 gallons, AWD is 18.5 gallons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 This may have been addressed but just wondering about interior seating position. One thing I don't like about the current one is the door thickness seems so thick-and distant from the seat-same with my SHO. If you like to drive with your arm resting on the window sill, not exactly comfortable IMO. Any opinions from those who have seen the new one-or are building it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 25 minutes ago, Bob Rosadini said: This may have been addressed but just wondering about interior seating position. One thing I don't like about the current one is the door thickness seems so thick-and distant from the seat-same with my SHO. If you like to drive with your arm resting on the window sill, not exactly comfortable IMO. Any opinions from those who have seen the new one-or are building it? Not since my 98 Escort have I been able to drive like that. Window sills are too high for that to me comfortable to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said: This may have been addressed but just wondering about interior seating position. One thing I don't like about the current one is the door thickness seems so thick-and distant from the seat-same with my SHO. If you like to drive with your arm resting on the window sill, not exactly comfortable IMO. Any opinions from those who have seen the new one-or are building it? Completely agree with you. And try reaching out the window when at an ATM or drivethru. I sure hope this one is improved. There have only been a select few that have been able to sit in them, most are locked at the auto shows. TFL is getting one next week to test so I am looking forward to reading their review. I sure hope they get the ST to test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said: This may have been addressed but just wondering about interior seating position. One thing I don't like about the current one is the door thickness seems so thick-and distant from the seat-same with my SHO. If you like to drive with your arm resting on the window sill, not exactly comfortable IMO. Any opinions from those who have seen the new one-or are building it? Yeah, I never understood how Explorers got that bad inside, as the Flex was closer to the door panels (unless it was just a thicker door panel?), but interior space utilization was a notorious problem with the D4 platform, so I'm sure it's been fixed with an all new platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Has ok to buy been given? I just saw 2 trucks loaded with new explorers on my way to work today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Has ok to buy been given? I just saw 2 trucks loaded with new explorers on my way to work today that's just an auto theft ring...nothing to see here...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Just now, Deanh said: that's just an auto theft ring...nothing to see here...... Nah, looked too official Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pain88 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Received pick up notice from my fleet. 10-17 days at my pickup location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 6 hours ago, blwnsmoke said: Completely agree with you. And try reaching out the window when at an ATM or drivethru. I sure hope this one is improved. There have only been a select few that have been able to sit in them, most are locked at the auto shows. TFL is getting one next week to test so I am looking forward to reading their review. I sure hope they get the ST to test. For sure-your ATM comment nails it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 6 hours ago, rmc523 said: Yeah, I never understood how Explorers got that bad inside, as the Flex was closer to the door panels (unless it was just a thicker door panel?), but interior space utilization was a notorious problem with the D4 platform, so I'm sure it's been fixed with an all new platform. Let's hope- and hopefully rear vision is improved-at least from my wife's perspective. As I've posted before, she was on her 3rd Explorer and when it came time for a 4th, she claimed she couldn't see out of new ones. I solved that by finding a CPO 2010 with 27,000 miles. that is not going to happen again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 8 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Not since my 98 Escort have I been able to drive like that. Window sills are too high for that to me comfortable to me. Grow taller, little brother! (With apologies to Herger the Joyous.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, SoonerLS said: Grow taller, little brother! (With apologies to Herger the Joyous.) I'm what most would consider to be average height (5' 11") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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