theoldwizard Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I would never buy unless the second row seats could be COMPLETELY eliminated ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Looking at the expected retail mix, it’s 5% base, 10% XLT 201A, 29% XLT 202A and 64% Platinum/Limited/ST. They are clearly marketing this as a premium vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, akirby said: Looking at the expected retail mix, it’s 5% base, 10% XLT 201A, 29% XLT 202A and 64% Platinum/Limited/ST. They are clearly marketing this as a premium vehicle. And that's fine, just don't force people to take $5k-$7k packages for something as simple as a $750 comfort package. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Biggest issue with the comfort package is that heated front seats and steering wheel are included on the 202A XLT for 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Just now, jasonj80 said: Biggest issue with the comfort package is that heated front seats and steering wheel are included on the 202A XLT for 2019. Is it? I completely missed that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, jasonj80 said: Biggest issue with the comfort package is that heated front seats and steering wheel are included on the 202A XLT for 2019. Nope - they’re part of the cold weather package and optional on both 200A and 202A XLT. But with 202A you have to get the moonroof and 20” wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, akirby said: Nope - they’re part of the cold weather package and optional on both 200A and 202A XLT. But with 202A you have to get the moonroof and 20” wheels. Were talking about the 2019 not the 2020. 2019 XLT 202A has heated seats and Heated wheel in the package. Cold weather package for 201A on the XLT has heated seats, heated wheel, and front parking sensors (Those are also included on the 202) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 31 minutes ago, akirby said: Looking at the expected retail mix, it’s 5% base, 10% XLT 201A, 29% XLT 202A and 64% Platinum/Limited/ST. They are clearly marketing this as a premium vehicle. I thought that was what the Lincoln product line was for. Keep the Explorer for the "working man". HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, jasonj80 said: Were talking about the 2019 not the 2020. Oops. 2019, 2020 - whatever it takes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Seems to me the ideal price of one of these option packages should be around 2-3k. Cheap enough to not scare off customers but enough for ford to make some extra profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said: I thought that was what the Lincoln product line was for. Keep the Explorer for the "working man". HRG Not this version. When they decided to go RWD/CD6 they decided to go upscale with both Explorer and Aviator based on the success of the previous gen Explorer Platinum and Limited. Aviator will go even higher - pushing $80K - $90K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said: I thought that was what the Lincoln product line was for. Keep the Explorer for the "working man". HRG Looking at the demographs of the Explorer it has never been actually sold to the "working man" after 2011 redo, the demographis started to shift much richer customer base from the '02 redo, accelerated with the '06 refresh and and have been on a upward trajectory from then. The vast majority of 2020's will be leased and then turned over to the used market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, akirby said: Not this version. When they decided to go RWD/CD6 they decided to go upscale with both Explorer and Aviator based on the success of the previous gen Explorer Platinum and Limited. Aviator will go even higher - pushing $80K - $90K. Thanks. Maybe they'll run the free moonroof promotion on the Escape again this spring, and I'll buy her a matching SEL like we got our daughter last year. HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) On 3/16/2019 at 3:23 PM, GGS1979 said: I checked online and it doesn't appear that you can get a second row bench in the ST or Platinum. Does anyone know if this can be special ordered ? If not it's a deal breaker because I have 5 kids. I forgot about that - I remember reading it in the order guides months ago, and thought it was bizarre, and I'm still thinking the same thing. I get that ST and Platinum are marketed to "high end" buyers. But that doesn't mean those buyers don't want/need that extra seat. If you want to make that the standard setup, but offer a bench for those that want it, fine. But for it to not even be an option to swap to a bench is ridiculous. It's not as if they don't make the bench already. Edited March 18, 2019 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 You can get a bench in the second row on the Platinum, option 17U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 2 hours ago, jasonj80 said: You can get a bench in the second row on the Platinum, option 17U. Hm. Didn't see that on the order guide. Makes even less sense that you can't order one on the ST then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) "... Explorer it has never been actually sold to the "working man" after 2011 redo," Ford did same with the 1965 LTD and '83 LTD Crown Victoria. Brought the full sized Ford family car upscale and the plain jane trims went to fleet cars. By the last CV's, were fleet only. Edited March 18, 2019 by 630land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 Limited and ST are the 2 trims with only captains chairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMSA-XJR9 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Saw the new Explorer and Escape on M23 this weekend. Both looked good in the flash. Explorer looked slimmer (less bloated) than current one. It was in black and the Escape was dark green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosheYehuda Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 would anyone have any predictions what the lease money factor will be on the Explorer ST in July? (right when the orders will arrive...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 3 hours ago, MosheYehuda said: would anyone have any predictions what the lease money factor will be on the Explorer ST in July? (right when the orders will arrive...) Right out of the gate like that given recent history of new models, probably not that great 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Right out of the gate like that given recent history of new models, probably not that great The rates are usually poor at the beginning of the Model Year, especially for an all-new model. They'll get better over time as there's more inventory available, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnewby Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Anyone have the Job One date for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 It was a couple of weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 May 6th... we are going on 2 weeks of production come this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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