T-dubz Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I like the honeycomb grille insert better. I wish cars would get away from using plastic chrome on them all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, T-dubz said: I like the honeycomb grille insert better. I wish cars would get away from using plastic chrome on them all together. So you'd rather have plain plastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 35 minutes ago, rmc523 said: So you'd rather have plain plastic? Yep, i always get the sport appearance package on anything I buy to get rid of as much of it as I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 On 1/6/2019 at 10:08 AM, Assimilator said: Sadly the Escape appears not to be debuting with an ST version, but the Kuga is getting an RS version. It may come later. If it does get an ST version at launch, the engine is no larger than the 2.0L EB. I suppose that's still quite reasonable. Focus ST is rumored to get the 2.3 EB so I think Kuga ST will too. Corsair should also continue with 2.3 EB... so it's part of the powertrain engineering for the vehicle program. The only question is if Ford will sell the ST in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, bzcat said: Focus ST is rumored to get the 2.3 EB so I think Kuga ST will too. Corsair should also continue with 2.3 EB... so it's part of the powertrain engineering for the vehicle program. The only question is if Ford will sell the ST in the US. That is a good question-the Focus ST seemed to sell ok and I saw quite a few RS's in my area- three in one afternoon-but I think the one was repeat since it had a tacky sticker on the lower doors. I've only seen a handful of GT350 since they've came out on the roads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Focus ST did sell amazingly well considering it was only available with manual transmission. I see plenty of them here in traffic slogged LA. So a little deductive reasoning here... The previous gen Focus ST and non-ST Escape had the same engine... 2.0EB. So in theory, if there was a Escape ST in the current Escape, it would have to be 2.3 EB because 2.0 EB is optional on SE, SEL, and Titanium. I really don't think Ford will "downgrade" the Escape ST to 2.0 EB in the new generation. We know 1.5 EB (the I3 version) and 2.0 EB are confirmed for Escape. If there is going to be a ST, it seems obvious it will get the 2.3 EB from Corsair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 So if the Corsair continues with the 2.3L, can we "hope" it'll make more than the 285HP it currently does? A nice 305 would help the little porker, since I doubt the 2.7L EB would come in play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader 10 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, ANTAUS said: So if the Corsair continues with the 2.3L, can we "hope" it'll make more than the 285HP it currently does? A nice 305 would help the little porker, since I doubt the 2.7L EB would come in play. I would hope that the new Escape and Corsair are lighter. The 2.0 is overdue for a significant upgrade; hopefully that happens with the 2020 models. A 270 or so hp 2.0 should be enough for an Escape ST model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 That's possible... a new version of 2.0 EB that can handle more power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 16 hours ago, ANTAUS said: So if the Corsair continues with the 2.3L, can we "hope" it'll make more than the 285HP it currently does? A nice 305 would help the little porker, since I doubt the 2.7L EB would come in play. They tuned it for peak torque at lower RPM (2750 vs 3000 in other vehicles) so that lowers the peak HP but should make it drive better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-ford-escape-kuga-revealing-photos-show-stylishly-focus-ed-design/ more pics of a different escape. For some reason this one looks a bit better to me but I’m not sure why lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcartwright99 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 On 1/8/2019 at 12:57 PM, bzcat said: That's possible... a new version of 2.0 EB that can handle more power. The twin scroll 2.0 is not that old at all. 2016 ish. They are currently up to 250hp (Edge). I think they can get to probably 265-270 without any problem. I think the torque has been limited due to the transmission. I don't know what the 8 speed is limiited to (the JV one).If they get the 2.0 up to 270hp/300lb/ft I think it should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailhiker Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, T-dubz said: https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-ford-escape-kuga-revealing-photos-show-stylishly-focus-ed-design/ more pics of a different escape. For some reason this one looks a bit better to me but I’m not sure why lol. Roof rails are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willwll313wll Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Yeah the angles do this one more justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 29 minutes ago, jcartwright99 said: The twin scroll 2.0 is not that old at all. 2016 ish. They are currently up to 250hp (Edge). I think they can get to probably 265-270 without any problem. I think the torque has been limited due to the transmission. I don't know what the 8 speed is limiited to (the JV one).If they get the 2.0 up to 270hp/300lb/ft I think it should be fine. They could always use the 8 speed that's in the Edge ST with the 2.7LEB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, Trailhiker said: Roof rails are different. You sure about that? Look again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) The silver one must be the SE, notice the filler pieces for the foglight. I like the new wheel designs. It's pretty bland, even by compact utility standards. I like the improved proportions, but there are certainly more striking vehicles in this segment like the CX-5, and more distinctive designs like the RAV4 and CR-V. This is about what I expect from Ford however, it's smartly done but a little stale. The one thing I like about the design is the flush glass and the chrome detail. Edited January 9, 2019 by Assimilator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seviper06 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Hm, LED break lights are back again? Amber turn signals are back lol...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) Standard LED running lamps, halogen amber indicators return. Not sure why they decided to spend money on cheapening the fixtures on the 2019. Edited January 9, 2019 by Assimilator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seviper06 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Assimilator said: Standard LED running lamps, halogen amber indicators return. Not sure why they decided to spend money on cheapening the fixtures on the 2019. I know. Kinda silly but what ever floats there boat. Me and my dad converted his 2018 Titanium Esscape with LED rear turn signals and also converted fogs and front turn signals to LEDs. Hell we even did the mirror turn signals and the puddle lights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailhiker Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 39 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: You sure about that? Look again Yes...Slide 13 in SIlver vs Slide 14 in Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Trailhiker said: Yes...Slide 13 in SIlver vs Slide 14 in Blue No they’re the same, the camo sticker just comes up higher on the blue one and makes it look different Edited January 9, 2019 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 49 minutes ago, seviper06 said: Hm, LED break lights are back again? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 16 hours ago, akirby said: They could always use the 8 speed that's in the Edge ST with the 2.7LEB. They'd be more likely to use the version of the 8 speed in the Nautilus that's paired with the 2.0. While the Nautilus has 8 speeds paired to both the 2.0 base and 2.7 upgrade engines, they are actually different transmissions with different origin stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) On 1/7/2019 at 9:31 PM, ANTAUS said: So if the Corsair continues with the 2.3L, can we "hope" it'll make more than the 285HP it currently does? A nice 305 would help the little porker, since I doubt the 2.7L EB would come in play. My guess is yes, as the 2.3 base engine in the newly unveiled Explorer has been reworked. This, from the press release: " The reinvigorated 2.3-liter engine is projected to produce 300 horsepower and 310 lb.-ft. of torque, with improved performance over the outgoing Explorer equipped with the same engine." (Though that is with the 10-speed transmission, I think.) Edited January 10, 2019 by Gurgeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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