akirby Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, blwnsmoke said: Well you can't really test drive Ferraris and Lamborghinis either so it should work out just fine lol. I hear there are videos that say differently......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, akirby said: I hear there are videos that say differently......... Thankfully the cars work better than the video equipment they use in them... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: Thankfully the cars work better than the video equipment they use in them... Driver error...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, akirby said: Driver error...... No, that was the part where the driver got passed by 4 other cars... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, akirby said: I hear there are videos that say differently......... Lol, I almost said something lol. But that is different then test driving at a dealership. Groupon is famous for test driving exotics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, blwnsmoke said: Lol, I almost said something lol. But that is different then test driving at a dealership. Groupon is famous for test driving exotics True but I couldn't pass that one up. Too bad RJ isn't here to roll his eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I have no idea how an online-only sale works. So you can't test drive a car because there's no (or very few) stores/showrooms, you can't go check one out. They're not going to have stores but they're going to have to have some sort of service centers around, why would you not have a showroom attached to that? A lot of questions created by this announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I know they were fighting the state franchise laws and other dealers. Maybe that's a factor? Or maybe they think people will just put them in their Amazon shopping cart and checkout cause they're hella cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msm859 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 hours ago, rmc523 said: I have no idea how an online-only sale works. So you can't test drive a car because there's no (or very few) stores/showrooms, you can't go check one out. They're not going to have stores but they're going to have to have some sort of service centers around, why would you not have a showroom attached to that? A lot of questions created by this announcement. I actually don't see this as much of a problem. They will have "galleries" where people can go look and touch a car. Test drives are over rated - I have not taken a test drive or even seen any car beforehand that I have bought for myself in over 30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, msm859 said: I actually don't see this as much of a problem. They will have "galleries" where people can go look and touch a car. Test drives are over rated - I have not taken a test drive or even seen any car beforehand that I have bought for myself in over 30 years. I used to do that until my wife bought an Escape that only she test drove by herself. Then we found out neither one of us liked the passenger seat (2014 Titanium came with a manual passenger seat). It felt like you were sitting on a phone book. Now I test drive everything from all seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I always test drive. Over varied conditions too. Only way for me to find out if I can live with a vehicle for 5+ years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooks527 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Always test drive. I came within a half hour of buying an Audi TTS. Stopped by the dealer with my wife to make sure she liked the passenger seat, and took her for a half hour ride. She liked it, but about 20 minutes in I realized that the seatbelt was digging into the edge of my neck (it was the first time I drove the car while wearing a shirt without a collar). There was no way I could get comfortable with it. Spent the next week trying to figure out a way around it (I really liked the car), finally gave up and bought something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 4 hours ago, akirby said: I know they were fighting the state franchise laws and other dealers. Maybe that's a factor? Or maybe they think people will just put them in their Amazon shopping cart and checkout cause they're hella cool. I can't see the state franchise laws/franchises being happy with this approach either. Regardless of it being factory-owned stores or online only, it affects their business model. 3 hours ago, msm859 said: I actually don't see this as much of a problem. They will have "galleries" where people can go look and touch a car. Test drives are over rated - I have not taken a test drive or even seen any car beforehand that I have bought for myself in over 30 years. What I've read made it sound like they're getting rid of all stores and will only have a few galleries in major cities. I highly disagree that test drives are overrated. I had my eye on an Edge for a while, and test drove it, and there's a seam on the dash that reflects/falls right in line with my line of sight and it annoyed me. Now that alone didn't keep me from getting one, but it was something I wouldn't have otherwise noticed until out on the road. As others have pointed out, it may also drive/feel different than you're expecting. But to each his own! For me, if I'm making such a significant investment in a vehicle I'm going to have for years, you sure as hell can bet I'm driving it before I sign the dotted line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 4 hours ago, akirby said: ...Or maybe they think people will just put them in their Amazon shopping cart and checkout cause they're hella cool. ...and they have Amazon Prime, so no destination charge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, Gurgeh said: ...and they have Amazon Prime, so no destination charge! Tesla Prime? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msm859 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 51 minutes ago, rmc523 said: I highly disagree that test drives are overrated. I had my eye on an Edge for a while, and test drove it, and there's a seam on the dash that reflects/falls right in line with my line of sight and it annoyed me. Now that alone didn't keep me from getting one, but it was something I wouldn't have otherwise noticed until out on the road. As others have pointed out, it may also drive/feel different than you're expecting. But to each his own! For me, if I'm making such a significant investment in a vehicle I'm going to have for years, you sure as hell can bet I'm driving it before I sign the dotted line. And I have never had an issue. Although in the last 20 years I have bought 4 Corvettes and 5 F350 crew cabs and a convertible Cobra Mustang. So once you have owned 1 no need to keep checking them out. In 2013 my wife did test drive a bunch of SUV's - BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Lincoln and Lexus before she said she liked the Explorer best. So I bought that sight unseen and only asked her if she wanted the Limited or the Sport. Then with the 2017 Platinum there was no reason to drive or look and her next car will probably be the new Aviator and I will want to look at that only for the interior difference between the Black Label and the Reserve II, but will have no need to drive - only interested in the electric range on the GT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 "Test drives are over rated" ??? Wait until Millennials hit middle ages, and they actually start aging. [They will learn the hard way that they are not immortal] When their backs and a$$es are not "pliable" and young anymore, then they'll will want to make sure the car seat fits right. They will scream to high heaven when that happens, if not already. I heard a story about how furniture companies are doing OK with "old fashioned stores", since buyers actually want to see the products in person and try then out. So, no not everything can be "drop shipped" and all if fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 More bad news-Model 3s being refused entry into China. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/03/05/tesla-model-3-customs-china/?ncid=edlinkusauto00000016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcartwright99 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) Thought I would chime in here. I read this from the Detroit News today. The author has written a few pieces about his model 3 experience. Detnews This is exactly why I call this the rich mans toy, especially when you drop 60k on it. When you have to rely on car through 4 seasons without a backup, the flaws start to show immediately. The fact that there will be no more show rooms and repair facilities are few and far between outside of big cities, spells major headaches. Wouldn't you think it would be cost prohibitive to doing house call repairs? Is this the beginning of the nose dive? I would think once the zealots get stranded or have to have their car repaired and have to wait and wait, their tunes may change. Nevermind the safety recalls that are bound to happen (they happen to every car maker) and be a total disaster to be repaired. But Wall Street loves them so who cares! Edited March 5, 2019 by jcartwright99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msm859 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 42 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: More bad news-Model 3s being refused entry into China. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/03/05/tesla-model-3-customs-china/?ncid=edlinkusauto00000016 Already fixed. https://seekingalpha.com/news/3439873-tesla-works-customs-issue-china-reuters?dr=1#email_link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I live in North Dakota. So basically out in the middle of nowhere compared to most on the BOF. Went out to eat the other night. Saw a Ford Transit Connect parked in front of me. It had a logo on the side stating something to the effect of "Tesla Service Vehicle". So A) surprised to see a Transit Connect with a Tesla logo. B) It was actually in ND where there aren't too many Tesla's. Chicago was the nearest center. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, 92merc said: I live in North Dakota. So basically out in the middle of nowhere compared to most on the BOF. Went out to eat the other night. Saw a Ford Transit Connect parked in front of me. It had a logo on the side stating something to the effect of "Tesla Service Vehicle". So A) surprised to see a Transit Connect with a Tesla logo. B) It was actually in ND where there aren't too many Tesla's. Chicago was the nearest center. Yeah, I've seen a few Ford vehicles - Transit Connects, and I think Super Duties (or maybe it was an F-150, don't remember) with Tesla logos on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, 92merc said: I live in North Dakota. So basically out in the middle of nowhere compared to most on the BOF. Went out to eat the other night. Saw a Ford Transit Connect parked in front of me. It had a logo on the side stating something to the effect of "Tesla Service Vehicle". So A) surprised to see a Transit Connect with a Tesla logo. B) It was actually in ND where there aren't too many Tesla's. Chicago was the nearest center. Thanks for sharing your experience 92merc sir. There's a Tesla service center in Eden Prairie, MN near Minneapolis. and a couple more in the Denver area. With the upper Great Plains being such a large area without Tesla service centers, mobile service is a must for For Tesla owners in the Dakotas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: Yeah, I've seen a few Ford vehicles - Transit Connects, and I think Super Duties (or maybe it was an F-150, don't remember) with Tesla logos on them. Mike Levine makes fun of them all the time on Twitter for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Mike Levine makes fun of them all the time on Twitter for that Ford makes good trucks.. makes sense tesla would use them as service vehicles. Now if only Ford could make an electric car that's worth a damn, they might have a better joke ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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