akirby Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Look at the tracks where the new package isn't being used. That's because the tapered spacer leaves the throttle far less responsive than it needs to be on short tracks and road courses That's why a smaller displacement engine would be better (IMO). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, akirby said: I see younger fans identifying with drivers not brands. I'm more like him than the younger more casual fans, and I'm not as big of a Die hard as I used to be. Maybe it's because I grew up watching in the 90s when Dale Earnhardt was the man, Jeff Gordon was the man on fire and there was a lot more personality in the garage. Then Jimmie Johnson came along and started the trend of clean shaven corporate friendly guys. It's nice to see some of the personality coming back the last 2-3 years with the new group of young drivers but I just can't relate to many of them, even though theres a few that are right around my age. I also don't identify with millennials very well either so that's part of it. There's still the William Byrons and Cole Custers out there with the personality of a wet noodle which is a big eye roll to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I'm more like him than the younger more casual fans, and I'm not as big of a Die hard as I used to be. Maybe it's because I grew up watching in the 90s when Dale Earnhardt was the man, Jeff Gordon was the man on fire and there was a lot more personality in the garage. Then Jimmie Johnson came along and started the trend of clean shaven corporate friendly guys. It's nice to see some of the personality coming back the last 2-3 years with the new group of young drivers but I just can't relate to many of them, even though theres a few that are right around my age. I also don't identify with millennials very well either so that's part of it. There's still the William Byrons and Cole Custers out there with the personality of a wet noodle which is a big eye roll to me. The drivers themselves are no longer brand loyal either. I think Earnhardt Sr. was probably the last generation of drivers who were fiercely brand loyal. Look at Chase Elliot. You know he grew up in a diehard Ford family but he drives Chevys. Michael Waltrip drove and owned Toyotas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, akirby said: The drivers themselves are no longer brand loyal either. I think Earnhardt Sr. was probably the last generation of drivers who were fiercely brand loyal. I would argue Junior actually. He only personally owns Chevys too AFAIK. I would make a case for Kyle Busch too. Oh you mean Chase Elliot who dreamed of owning a Chevy truck as a kid? Edited January 18, 2019 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I would argue Junior actually. He only personally owns Chevys too AFAIK. I would make a case for Kyle Busch too. Yeah I can see that, but I don't think he was as outspoken about Chevy as his dad nor were a lot of his fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisH Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 11:19 AM, akirby said: The drivers themselves are no longer brand loyal either. I think Earnhardt Sr. was probably the last generation of drivers who were fiercely brand loyal. Uh, Dale Sr drove a Ford in the early and mid 80’s. Maybe he was brand loyal in his later years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Maybe it was his fans and not him necessarily. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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