fuzzymoomoo Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/general-motors/2018/11/25/general-motors-planning-oshawa-ontario-plant-closure/38606867/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 That is bad news for sure...I would understand if they only made the Impala and XTS there, but they make trucks there too....are GM truck sales tanking that badly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang let back Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Mmmmmm,I wonder if another BANKRUPTCY is in the near future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang let back Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Mmmmmm,I wonder if another BANKRUPTCY is in the near future . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 The only reason it has held on this long is that under the bankruptcy loan GM got from the Canadian government was that 16% of production in NA needed to remain in Canada. That caveat ended in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Looking at today's Automotive News, GM also may close Lordstown and Hamtramck. Several models may be on the chopping block too: Chevy Volt, Buick LaCrosse, Cadillac CT6 and XTS, Chevy Impala and Sonic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 3 hours ago, twintornados said: That is bad news for sure...I would understand if they only made the Impala and XTS there, but they make trucks there too....are GM truck sales tanking that badly? Producing trucks there was a bone GM threw the Union to end their strike in 2016. They really didn't need another plant for trucks even back then. I thought more about it last night since I posted this. I can see this being the first of several plant closings. GM has a TON of underutilized plants right now. I could see them closing Delta Township and Lordstown once the UAW contract expires next year. Both of those are very redundant plants, especially Lordstown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mackinaw said: Looking at today's Automotive News, GM also may close Lordstown and Hamtramck. Several models may be on the chopping block too: Chevy Volt, Buick LaCrosse, Cadillac CT6 and XTS, Chevy Impala and Sonic. If anything I could see them keeping D-Ham and consolidating most all sedan production there, and keeping Lansing Grand River for Alpha cars. Edited November 26, 2018 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I thought more about it last night since I posted this. I can see this being the first of several plant closings. GM has a TON of underutilized plants right now. I could see them closing Delta Township and Lordstown once the UAW contract expires next year. Both of those are very redundant plants, especially Lordstown. The plant closings next year (in both Canada and the US) will become crazy political. The Loss of vehicle and parts manufacturing in Canada has been staggering over the past 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) Interesting that the Cadillac CT6 may be on the chopping block. That is the very type of vehicle - a large, rear-wheel-drive passenger car - that Lincoln is supposed to be building, according to the internet experts. Yes, the Lincoln Continental is also most likely going away, but I seriously doubt that Ford invested as much to bring the Continental to market as Cadillac did for the CT6. Edited November 26, 2018 by grbeck 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, grbeck said: Interesting that the Cadillac CT6 may be on the chopping block. That is the very type of vehicle - a large, rear-wheel-drive passenger car - that Lincoln is supposed to be building, according to the internet experts. Yes, the Lincoln Continental is also most likely going away, but I seriously doubt that Ford invested as much to bring the Continental to market as Cadillac did for the CT6. 100%, Though this isn't just a GM thing. VW, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc are all going to be eliminating models from their line up. What is going to be interesting is the Aviator vs the XT6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Looks like it's true, several plants are closing: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/general-motors/2018/11/25/general-motors-planning-oshawa-ontario-plant-closure/38606867/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, mackinaw said: Looks like it's true, several plants are closing: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/general-motors/2018/11/25/general-motors-planning-oshawa-ontario-plant-closure/38606867/ The official GM press release https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2018/nov/1126-gm.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 I'm very surprised they’re closing D-Ham. That plant is not very old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Cadillac XTS Cadillac CT6 Chevy Impala Chevy Volt Chevy Cruze sedan Buick LaCrosse Thats a pretty significant chunk of product-plus they are closing 2 additional plants overseas on top of the plant they closing in Canada. I'm assuming that Caddy's car lineup with shink down to a CTS and maybe a smaller then CTS product at the same plant that that they make the Camaro at? The Volt is kinda suprising-unless its getting moved some place else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Update (Nov. 26, 2018 10:50 A.M. EST): It is official. A GM spokesperson told Jalopnik over the phone: “We are ending production of the Volt March 1, 2019.” When asked whether the Volt will return at some point, the representative said she could not comment on future products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I suspect the Cruze will stay around, just imported from Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I'm very surprised they’re closing D-Ham. That plant is not very old. Isn't this what was once called the Poletown Plant? Talk about a political hot potato back in the 1980's. Lot of homes torn down and families displaced to build this plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, mackinaw said: I suspect the Cruze will stay around, just imported from Mexico. The Hatchback comes from Mexico, so you'd be correct. Anyone else get the feeling they should have done this 10 years ago when they went through BK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Ten years ago sedan sales still made up the majority of vehicle sales in the U.S. GM has finally come to the realization that Ford and FCA did, sedans are dying in North America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Chevy is exiting the sedan business, the Cruze is being discontinued and replaced by a smaller crossover at the Mexican plant (Next Trax grows in size). They are transitioning their other plants instead of closing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 17 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: The Hatchback comes from Mexico, so you'd be correct. Anyone else get the feeling they should have done this 10 years ago when they went through BK? Yep. Been saying it for years now. I still feel like they have too many plants. Delta Township could probably go and they would be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 19 minutes ago, mackinaw said: Isn't this what was once called the Poletown Plant? Talk about a political hot potato back in the 1980's. Lot of homes torn down and families displaced to build this plant. Probably, but that was before my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, mackinaw said: Isn't this what was once called the Poletown Plant? Talk about a political hot potato back in the 1980's. Lot of homes torn down and families displaced to build this plant. And a ton of case law in dealing with eminent domain to take property for private use.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 22 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: Anyone else get the feeling they should have done this 10 years ago when they went through BK? You were never going to get politicians to sign on to what they got if they closed a bunch more plants. Janeseville wasn't official closed until well after 2009. It was "Mothballed" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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