IMSA-XJR9 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a24174036/ken-block-hoonicorn-ford-f150-pickup/ Ken Block and the Hoonigan team have to up the ante with every new installment of their viral Gymkhana drift video series. For the soon-arriving Gymkhana 10, Block and crew built something completely absurd—a drift truck. More specifically, a 1977 Ford F-150 with a 914-hp twin-turbo 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6. Meet the "Hoonitruck." This F-150 isn't really an F-150. Like Block's crazy 1965 Mustang drift machine, the Hoonicorn, it's a custom tube-frame chassis with some old body panels on top. We, of course, don't mind because this thing looks rad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 This thing is as much an F-150 as the NASCAR version is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Kat Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Absolutely 100% insane! This relationship that Ford has with Ken Block is phenomenal. I see this as a fantastic way of connecting with the youth market and hopefully making young Ford guys and gals out of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Absolutely 100% insane! This relationship that Ford has with Ken Block is phenomenal. I see this as a fantastic way of connecting with the youth market and hopefully making young Ford guys and gals out of them. I guess it won't matter that they can't actually afford anything that Ford will be building in the future.... BTW, my first new vehicle was a 1977 F-150 4x4 Flareside. MSRP was $5070. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I guess it won't matter that they can't actually afford anything that Ford will be building in the future... Why does everyone keep saying that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Why does everyone keep saying that? Because most people can't afford new cars without taking out 72+ month loans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Why does everyone keep saying that? Don't you know? Ford is only going to produce super-high priced models and you HAVE to get EVERY option available when you purchase. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Because most people can't afford new cars without taking out 72+ month loans. I don't think that's true. I think most people want more car than they can afford on a loan less than 72 months. So, they take out a 72 month loan to pay for more car than they can afford. Folks want all the goodies, then they complain about how expensive they are. On the flip side, a 72 month loan isn't as painful because cars last so much longer today and you don't have to replace it before it's paid off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Because most people can't afford new cars without taking out 72+ month loans. But it's always said in the context of cancelling Focus and Fusion. As if Ecosport, Ranger XL and at least 2 more entry level utilities don't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Most people don't make a $100K a year self included. A new car is a very bad investment, probably the worst investment one can make. I can't afford a new car (truck) now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Most people don't make a $100K a year self included. A new car is a very bad investment, probably the worst investment one can make. I can't afford a new car (truck) now. A car is NOT an investment (unless it's a Ford GT or something like that). A car is a tool that you use to get to work, go to the store, etc. It's going to decrease in value, guaranteed. You determine how much you have to spend, when goodies you want on it, and buy what you can. Some people choose no-frills, others choose lots of goodies. It's up to the buyer to decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 A car is NOT an investment (unless it's a Ford GT or something like that). A car is a tool that you use to get to work, go to the store, etc. It's going to decrease in value, guaranteed. You determine how much you have to spend, when goodies you want on it, and buy what you can. Some people choose no-frills, others choose lots of goodies. It's up to the buyer to decide. And because of the prices, we will see a change to autonomous cars, people will no longer "own" a car in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 And because of the prices, we will see a change to autonomous cars, people will no longer "own" a car in the future. Are cars more expensive today than years past? Yes. Accounting for inflation, cars equipped similarly to cars of 20 years ago, are not that much more expensive. If you want all the goodies (moon roof, leather, heated/cooled seats, lane keep assist, 7 cameras, adaptive cruise), sure, they are much more expensive, but that stuff wasn't around 20 years ago. Comparably equipped cars are not drastically more expensive than they were 20 years ago. Add in the longevity, and I would surmise they are cheaper per mile than 20, 30, 40 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 And because of the prices, we will see a change to autonomous cars, people will no longer "own" a car in the future. Right, because nobody can possibly purchase a decent used car starting around $8K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Right, because nobody can possibly purchase a decent used car starting around $8K. Good point. We paid less than that for a mint Milan with 65k miles about 18 months ago. It will be my daughters and I expect it will last her until after she gets out of college in 6.5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) Wow I was thinking NEW. Buying used does nothing for the bottom line of the manufacturers. Edited October 26, 2018 by coupe3w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Wow I was thinking NEW. Buying used does nothing for the bottom line of the manufacturers. True, but you said: And because of the prices, we will see a change to autonomous cars, people will no longer "own" a car in the future. There's really no reference to the bottom line of mfgrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Have you looked at how many NEW cars are being sold today? It’s around 17M/yr which is as high as it’s ever been. Higher prices have not stopped people from buying them. If it was a problem more people would be buying used cars and new car sales would drop significantly. More people may be leasing and taking longer term loans but they’re still buying new vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 And if new cars did get too expensive then people would most likely buy 3 yr old used cars, not switch to AVs or Uber/Lyft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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