silvrsvt Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 One problem that For has, started to be addressed a year or so ago, but they do not have the talent to figure it out ! Ford finally woke up to the fact that SOFTWARE is a big part (and getting bigger) of their product and they have no standardized method of how it is done. Worse, lower and even middle level management look at the whole process as magic. A request goes into a black box and some how the change coems out the back end. Different organizations (Powertrain, EV, body, etc) do it differently. Outsourcing was a disaster (Sync 1 was primarily done by Microsoft and we know what that product turned out lik; EcoBoost 1 was primarily done by Bosch, but had huge cost over runs and EcoBoost 2 not only reduced engineering cost but product costs), The whole IT organization is set up in a manner as to BLOCK new internal tools and NOT HELP engineering solve problems. They to had a major outsourcing disaster (They spent over $1B on a new purchasing system called Everest back in the 1990. When rolled out, it was discovered that much functionality was not included. Worse the cost estimate of Everest II were far more than the first version.) The proposed new "centralized" product software development organization is turning into a huge "power grab/empire build" ! You do realize that 1990 was 28 years ago and outside of legacy data-they really dont have equipment that old running on a production system? As of IT-you dont seem to grasp it that well-you can just silly nilly introduce programs to a system-you wind up with even more problems doing that. You need change management and configuration magament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I have friends and family in the IT department. Trust me, it's a clusterfuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I have friends and family in the IT department. Trust me, it's a clusterfuck. The bad thing is most of them are! Thats been my experience working in and around them. Management doesnt get it and think its like a light switch and it just works when it needs massaging etc to work properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) You do realize that 1990 was 28 years ago and outside of legacy data-they really dont have equipment that old running on a production system? I was at an unofficial ceremony about 2 months ago for the shut down of a server that had been in "production" for over 20 years. As of IT-you dont seem to grasp it that well-you can just silly nilly introduce programs to a system-you wind up with even more problems doing that. You need change management and configuration magament. You have to be there to see just how bad it really is. People keep inventing ways to GET AROUND it to get their job done. A good buddy is one of the many "shadow" IT persons. Edited October 13, 2018 by theoldwizard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I was at an unofficial ceremony about 2 months ago for the shut down of a server that had been in "production" for over 20 years. ............................................................................................ You have to be there to see just how bad it really is. People keep inventing ways to GET AROUND it to get their job done. A good buddy is one of the many "shadow" IT persons. Sounds like the more things change, the more they stay the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Just finding new ways to do things the old way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 3 teams Truck guys build trucks and this includes moab and rubicon type stuff and not that bulshit fluffy f150 crap fir city idiots to haul beer in the back only..no carpet type stuff with drain holes in the floor Race car guys gives us unbrideled horsepower from the gods..if god invented the hemi on day 8 these guys can let loose a real cobra jet for street consumption and not that limited edition crap All female team gives us all that crossover active crap... Fire uaw and hire canadians with beards This should fix ford . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 You found the bearded canadians offensive???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) Just finding new ways to do things the old way I'm sure we could build a "Ford economic clock" that approximates different phases of the economy... 1. Lots of money in the bank, time to buy companies and diversify, building new income streams..........Nasser 2. it all turns to crap and someone steps in with a rescue plan that makes everything worse....................Bill Ford 3. Source experienced CEO from outside the company to rescue and revive Ford..................................Mulally 4. Anointed successor rides previous CEO's work into the ground but makes lots of cash......................Fields 1. Lots of money in the bank, time to buy companies and diversify, building new income streams......... Hackett Edited October 14, 2018 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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