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Silverado I4 only rated at 21 combined


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#1 OFFLINE   silvrsvt

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 08:29 AM

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 08:30 AM

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 08:57 AM

Silverado 2.7L I4    20/23   21 combined.

 

F150 2.7L V6 Turbo -   20/26  22 combined.

 

F150  3.3L -   20/25  22 combined.

 

F150 3.5L V6 Turbo with 470 lb/ft and 11K+ towing -  18/25  21 combined. 

 

With the new turbo engines I'm not seeing any benefit to smaller engines.



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 09:25 AM

Silverado 2.7L I4    20/23   21 combined.

 

F150 2.7L V6 Turbo -   20/26  22 combined.

 

F150  3.3L -   20/25  22 combined.

 

F150 3.5L V6 Turbo with 470 lb/ft and 11K+ towing -  18/25  21 combined. 

 

With the new turbo engines I'm not seeing any benefit to smaller engines.

Horsepower isn't free, still gotta burn fuel.



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 11:53 AM

Horsepower isn't free, still gotta burn fuel.


True but keep your foot out of the accelerator and youll get the stares economy. You also have the power if you do need it on occasion. Just a smaller engine means you dont have the power, ever.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 12:23 PM

Always be skeptical of GM's interpretation of Ford's strategy, it's always wrong.  


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 12:30 PM

Always be skeptical of GM's interpretation of Ford's  any strategy, it's always wrong.   

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 12:38 PM

Always be skeptical of GM

 

FTFY again


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 12:39 PM

True but keep your foot out of the accelerator and youll get the stares economy. You also have the power if you do need it on occasion. Just a smaller engine means you dont have the power, ever.

I got 26 mpg with my 2018 2.7 EB, CC, 4x4 on Sept 15 coming home from Minneapolis with the A/C on.  325HP/400TQ is all the power I need. More than my 5.4 had.



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 01:00 PM

Most 2019 Silverado customers will get a V8 engine with their truck. Sounds like the 2.7L turbo 4-cylinder is more for CAFE compliance than anything else.


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 01:33 PM

Most 2019 Silverado customers will get a V8 engine with their truck. Sounds like the 2.7L turbo 4-cylinder is more for CAFE compliance than anything else.

And they won't learn from the mistakes they made with the Camaro and CTS/ATS. They built way too many with the engines people weren't buying and kept building too many.
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Posted 10 October 2018 - 02:45 PM

I have 2 co-workers with GM trucks.  Both with the 5.3 V8.  They both frequently get 22-24mpg on the highway at 70mph with light winds.  There is absolutely no reason I would go for a 2.7 V6 with the V8 returning those numbers.



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 02:54 PM

I Find the people that like their truck get exceptional gas mileage. People that dont really like the truck get terrible gas mileage. I dont trust peoples word of mouth on their gas mileage. Now for me my truck, which I really like, does not get great gas mileage. As a matter of fact I always find it to get lower than I expect on a trip. However I really enjoy the truck and Im OK with it.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 03:12 PM

Sounds like the 2.7L turbo 4-cylinder is more for CAFE compliance than anything else.

 

With those ratings it's not helping CAFE much either.


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 03:12 PM

I have 2 co-workers with GM trucks.  Both with the 5.3 V8.  They both frequently get 22-24mpg on the highway at 70mph with light winds.  There is absolutely no reason I would go for a 2.7 V6 with the V8 returning those numbers.

 

GM doesn't have a 2.7L V6.



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 03:40 PM

I have 2 co-workers with GM trucks.  Both with the 5.3 V8.  They both frequently get 22-24mpg on the highway at 70mph with light winds.  There is absolutely no reason I would go for a 2.7 V6 with the V8 returning those numbers.

And I work at a GM dealership and the 2 I've driven got high teens. One of my former co-workers drove a 2016 and said the mileage was worse than his 2013.

 

Your're taking a sample of 2 and saying  'they all get that". It's like the liars on pickuptruck.com who say their Rams get 25+ mpg at  80mph. 

 

You have to read between the lines.



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:21 PM

Most 2019 Silverado customers will get a V8 engine with their truck. Sounds like the 2.7L turbo 4-cylinder is more for CAFE compliance than anything else.

 

Except it is doing an exceptional bad job at CAFE compliance.


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:44 PM

GM failing to invest in its most critical business...but what else is new.  When Ford touches the F-Series, big things come out of it.  



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 09:59 PM

Wow. An all new engine of rather unprecedented configuration in a full size pickup and it gets all of.......20/23? That's hillariously awful! Especially considering the numbers Ford is getting with their sixes.

So let's see... these are going to be coarse and raspy (i.e. a normal 4 cylinder), have significantly less power than the V8 option, and only get 20/23 to boot? Well at least GM will have market evidence to cancel it in a few years and go back to all V8 because "that's what our buyers want"

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 02:24 AM

I think that's why Ford went V6 EB instead of the I-4 EB in F150...

that, in my opinion would be a mistake and one that GM just made.

 

With over  third of F150 sales, the  2.7 V6 EB pleases many real world  buyers,

the GM 2.7 I-4 Turbo won't ever be given that chance it's been limited to a novelty

so as to avoid hurting 4.3 V6 sales.


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