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I can't help but compare this to Hennessey's 800 hp package for the Escalade. Obviously 600 hp is no joking matter, but this is why Ford should offer the 5.0 in anything they put the 3.5eb in. The 3.5eb is obviously a little faster stock vs stock, but it's already using boost to get there. Once you start doing aftermarket boost, the 3.5 is at a big displacement disadvantage compared to the 5.0. The coyote and 6.2 LS motors are a fairly simple 800 hp with a big twin screw, intercooler, and a tune. It takes a lot more work and $$$$ to get a 3.5 up to those numbers.

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I can't help but compare this to Hennessey's 800 hp package for the Escalade. Obviously 600 hp is no joking matter, but this is why Ford should offer the 5.0 in anything they put the 3.5eb in. The 3.5eb is obviously a little faster stock vs stock, but it's already using boost to get there. Once you start doing aftermarket boost, the 3.5 is at a big displacement disadvantage compared to the 5.0. The coyote and 6.2 LS motors are a fairly simple 800 hp with a big twin screw, intercooler, and a tune. It takes a lot more work and $$$$ to get a 3.5 up to those numbers.

the difference is that this upgrade can be had for $19,950 while the HPE800 package for the Escalade is around $55,000 - LINK

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I can't help but compare this to Hennessey's 800 hp package for the Escalade. Obviously 600 hp is no joking matter, but this is why Ford should offer the 5.0 in anything they put the 3.5eb in. The 3.5eb is obviously a little faster stock vs stock, but it's already using boost to get there. Once you start doing aftermarket boost, the 3.5 is at a big displacement disadvantage compared to the 5.0. The coyote and 6.2 LS motors are a fairly simple 800 hp with a big twin screw, intercooler, and a tune. It takes a lot more work and $$$$ to get a 3.5 up to those numbers.

So Hennessey is buulding 200 of them.. so Ford should turn around and offer the 5.0 because of 200 modified Navigators that void the Ford warranty?

 

I just had a Navigstor as a rental for a week while my Explorer was having work done (thanks Ford ESP rental coverage) and put 1,000 miles on it. The factory 450HP was awesome, cant imagine another 150 on top.

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Personally, I think they should offer the Coyote in the Navigator. It shouldn't cost Ford that much more to offer it, and there are still people out there who want a V8.

 

Of course, I'm not going to be in the market for a new one in, well, a long time, so I don't think they should really listen to me.

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Personally, I think they should offer the Coyote in the Navigator. It shouldn't cost Ford that much more to offer it, and there are still people out there who want a V8.

 

Of course, I'm not going to be in the market for a new one in, well, a long time, so I don't think they should really listen to me.

 

The Coyote isn't available in Super Duty, right? I think if it were offered in it, we might see it in Expy/Navi, but that would mean adding another engine to the plant.

 

I wonder if we'd see that new 7.3 (doubt it).

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The Coyote isn't available in Super Duty, right?

 

I wonder if we'd see that new 7.3 (doubt it).

I was mostly joking about the Coyote in the Navigator (although I'd want one if I were in the market), but, no, it's not available in the Super Duty.

 

If the 7X is what it appears to be (a HD truck engine), I doubt we'll see it in anything under the Super Duty line.

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This whole thing that Hennessey throws up is the important questions of how much power do buyers really want

and how much they are prepared to pay for it...

 

Maybe if Ford was to move the 3.5 EB a little higher with a factory 500 Hp and 550 lb ft, that would be enough.

It would also open up a nice gap below for a smaller more efficient 3.0 EB to fill the void as a more basic engine.

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I hope it gets a good reception, Ford needs to be on their game with the 2.3 EB

as this is basically the engine from the Focus RS, not the current Mustang 2.3 EB

 

Powertrain for increased output. Ford’s EcoBoost technology powers Focus RS and nearly every new Ford vehicle. Projected to produce well in excess of 315 horsepower (235 kW), the custom unit shares its fundamental structure with the all-aluminum 2.3-liter four-cylinder engine in the new Mustang, but has been significantly upgraded through a comprehensive package of design changes. http://www.greencarcongress.com/2015/02/20150204-focusrs.html

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