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Lincoln Continental most likely dead in 2020 for North America


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#1 OFFLINE   silvrsvt

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 07:00 AM

https://jalopnik.com...-1828811167/amp

Looks like Flat Rock will be building the Transit Connect to fix the chicken tax issues with it and to convert it into an AV vehicle also.

Continental ooks like it will continue in China though.

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 07:54 AM

Transit Connect makes sense as the AV vehicle. the initial market for these will be company fleet, not retail.



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Posted 06 September 2018 - 08:33 AM

Transit Connect makes sense as the AV vehicle. the initial market for these will be company fleet, not retail.


That’s really the only viable market in the next few years.

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 09:52 AM

It's really a shame that now that Lincoln finally has the right platform for this vehicle, that the wheels fall off sedan sales.


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Posted 06 September 2018 - 10:14 AM

Theres a lot wrong in that article too.

They build 420 total cars per SHIFT, not per week. Dunno who that guys sources are but they are wrong, and he clearly didnt read what he linked to on this very forum.

This is also the same guy who said the continental should have looked like the 2002 concept so his credibility is shot in my opinion.
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 10:47 AM

I understand that there is a portion of the fault of the SUV domain. But the Continental has always been criticized for using the Fusion platform and being a front-wheel drive model. That's a problem with resurrected names. There will always be collection and comparison with the old model whose name was original

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 11:47 AM

I understand that there is a portion of the fault of the SUV domain. But the Continental has always been criticized for using the Fusion platform and being a front-wheel drive model. That's a problem with resurrected names. There will always be collection and comparison with the old model whose name was original

 

The previous gen Continental was based on the FWD Taurus platform.


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Posted 06 September 2018 - 03:19 PM

The previous gen Continental was based on the FWD Taurus platform.


The Conti has been a unibody FWD for 30 years. The two previous generations shared a platform with the lowly Taurus (oh, the horror!).
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Posted 06 September 2018 - 03:32 PM

https://jalopnik.com...-1828811167/amp

Looks like Flat Rock will be building the Transit Connect to fix the chicken tax issues with it and to convert it into an AV vehicle also.

Continental ooks like it will continue in China though.

 

Is the new addition for the AV vehicle or the Mach One/Model E?



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Posted 06 September 2018 - 03:39 PM

Definitely AV.  Not sure about model E - it got moved at least once and I can't keep track of it.



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Posted 06 September 2018 - 04:17 PM

Definitely AV.  Not sure about model E - it got moved at least once and I can't keep track of it.

Model E (or that platform at least) is no longer slated for Flat Rock, its going to Cuactitlan by all accounts.

The AV program is being housed at the new building at Flat Rock.
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Posted 07 September 2018 - 07:51 AM

So, if the AV craze does not take off, Flat Rock will still be happy to provide regular Transit Connects.



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Posted 07 September 2018 - 10:22 AM

I feel bad about the Continental !  It never got a fair shot.  Sandwiched between the MKZ and the MKS and very little advertising.

 

Just out of curiosity, how do the interior specs line up with those 3 vehicles ?  Continental should have the best rear seat leg room.



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Posted 07 September 2018 - 10:38 AM

I feel bad about the Continental !  It never got a fair shot.  Sandwiched between the MKZ and the MKS and very little advertising.

 

Just out of curiosity, how do the interior specs line up with those 3 vehicles ?  Continental should have the best rear seat leg room.

 

How was it sandwiched between MKZ and MKS when it replaced MKS?


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 10:52 AM

Continental rear legroom is vastly larger than the MKZ or MKS. Longer wheelbase than either of those but slightly shorter overall length than the MKS. Much better packaging throughout the cabin than any other Ford or Lincoln sedan.

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Posted 07 September 2018 - 10:57 AM

That didn't last long.

 

I like the Continental, but one problem was that I could never immediately tell if I was looking at an MKZ or a Continental when looking at the front. 



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Posted 07 September 2018 - 12:41 PM

It's not acknowledged but the Continental is also VERY low to the ground.  They got space out of the MKZ platform by lowering everything in the cab.  CD4 is a nice LONG platform, lots of legroom, but everything bolted to it has a low ceiling as well.  Continental is notorious for it's cramped ceiling height in the rear, MKZ is much worse however.  To me the MKZ is barely an adult 4-seater the ceiling is so low. 

 

To me, the Continental and MKZ epitomize the reasons why sedans died, they sucked the utility and comfort out to suit a sleek profile despite sharing the same platform, price, and performance with their VASTLY more flexible utilities.  I really think the automotive form factor is just fixing a trend that ignored the human occupants.  


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 12:47 PM

It's not acknowledged but the Continental is also VERY low to the ground.  They got space out of the MKZ platform by lowering everything in the cab.  CD4 is a nice LONG platform, lots of legroom, but everything bolted to it has a low ceiling as well.  Continental is notorious for it's cramped ceiling height in the rear, MKZ is much worse however.  To me the MKZ is barely an adult 4-seater the ceiling is so low. 

 

To me, the Continental and MKZ represent the reason why sedans died, they sucked the utility and comfort out to suit a sleek profile despite sharing the same platform, price, and performance with their VASTLY more flexible and comfortable utilities.  

 

And everyone complained when they had less sleek profiles that they weren't stylish.


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 02:42 PM


 
To me, the Continental and MKZ epitomize the reasons why sedans died, they sucked the utility and comfort out to suit a sleek profile despite sharing the same platform, price, and performance with their VASTLY more flexible utilities.  I really think the automotive form factor is just fixing a trend that ignored the human occupants.  


Ass, I am sorry if you suffer from a medical condition or ailment that makes you unable to find comfort in anything but a frumpy utility vehicle. However, to say that the comfort was sucked out of a Continental is an asinine and ridiculous statement.
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Posted 07 September 2018 - 02:53 PM

Ass, I am sorry if you suffer from a medical condition or ailment that makes you unable to find comfort in anything but a frumpy utility vehicle. However, to say that the comfort was sucked out of a Continental is an asinine and ridiculous statement.

 

He has some serious self deprecation issues going on and often runs his mouth to everyone's annoyance-best to just ignore him till he has a hissy fit and leaves again. He did it once before


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