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#1 OFFLINE   silvrsvt

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 12:16 PM

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 12:33 PM

DISLAIMER:  I'm not a NASCAR fan at all - cars running in circles for hours is boring to me.

 

But, can I ask the question....

 

 

What's the point in even putting these stickers on these cars to make it look like whatever model they choose?  I know advertising for the model, but it's just stupid to me - these "cars" have nothing to do with the models whos stickers they pretend to be.


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#3 OFFLINE   fuzzymoomoo

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 12:35 PM

At least the Camaro and Mustang are both V8 RWD.....
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Posted 09 August 2018 - 12:45 PM

At least the Camaro and Mustang are both V8 RWD.....

 

Instead of 4 door FWD midsized sedans........



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Posted 09 August 2018 - 02:47 PM

DISLAIMER:  I'm not a NASCAR fan at all - cars running in circles for hours is boring to me.

 

But, can I ask the question....

 

 

What's the point in even putting these stickers on these cars to make it look like whatever model they choose?  I know advertising for the model, but it's just stupid to me - these "cars" have nothing to do with the models whos stickers they pretend to be.

 

What else should Ford, Chevy & Toyota do?  Just make it look like a generic coupe with a manufacturer sticker on it?  I can see doing that in IndyCar & F1, but full bodied race cars like NASCAR, NHRA Pro Stock & Funny Car, SuperCars, etc. need to resemble some type of readily available car, even if it is just "stickers".  They still believe in the "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday" mantra.

 

BTW - I was at the NASCAR Cup race this past weekend at Watkins Glen.  It's a road course with more right turns than left and the Cup cars put on a hell of a show.  It was a blast!


Edited by NLPRacing, 09 August 2018 - 02:48 PM.

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 03:25 PM

 

What else should Ford, Chevy & Toyota do?  Just make it look like a generic coupe with a manufacturer sticker on it?  I can see doing that in IndyCar & F1, but full bodied race cars like NASCAR, NHRA Pro Stock & Funny Car, SuperCars, etc. need to resemble some type of readily available car, even if it is just "stickers".  They still believe in the "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday" mantra.

 

BTW - I was at the NASCAR Cup race this past weekend at Watkins Glen.  It's a road course with more right turns than left and the Cup cars put on a hell of a show.  It was a blast!

 

Nobody believes in "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday" any more.   And yes, they could just put a generic nose on every car and say that it's Ford or Chevy or Toyota powered just like prototypes.   Only the die hard brand loyalists would care and there aren't many of those left.



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Posted 09 August 2018 - 03:34 PM

 
What else should Ford, Chevy & Toyota do?  Just make it look like a generic coupe with a manufacturer sticker on it?  I can see doing that in IndyCar & F1, but full bodied race cars like NASCAR, NHRA Pro Stock & Funny Car, SuperCars, etc. need to resemble some type of readily available car, even if it is just "stickers".  They still believe in the "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday" mantra.
 
BTW - I was at the NASCAR Cup race this past weekend at Watkins Glen.  It's a road course with more right turns than left and the Cup cars put on a hell of a show.  It was a blast!

Year after year Watkins Glen proves to be the best race of the NASCAR season.
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Posted 09 August 2018 - 03:51 PM

 

What else should Ford, Chevy & Toyota do?  Just make it look like a generic coupe with a manufacturer sticker on it?  I can see doing that in IndyCar & F1, but full bodied race cars like NASCAR, NHRA Pro Stock & Funny Car, SuperCars, etc. need to resemble some type of readily available car, even if it is just "stickers".  They still believe in the "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday" mantra.

 

BTW - I was at the NASCAR Cup race this past weekend at Watkins Glen.  It's a road course with more right turns than left and the Cup cars put on a hell of a show.  It was a blast!

 

That's all they are though.


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 05:46 PM

Meh. Who cares? The France family doesn't give two poops about the old NASCAR fans and the cars bear not even the slightest resemblance to the vehicles on which their stickers are loosely based, so why should anybody give two poops about NASCAR?

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 05:48 PM

They tried that with the "car of tomorrow" a few years ago, and I believe that hurt more than it helped. It will be interesting to see the difference between the new Aussie V8 Supercar Mustang and the NASCAR Mustang.


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 06:09 PM

Looks like they modeled it loosely off of the GT350.

 

Just wait till they put the GM engines in all of them. Don't think it will happen? Just wait it's coming.


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 06:09 AM

If you want to see actual Mustang, Challenger and Camaros with OEM engines running the Trans Am TA2 Class is still around

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 07:37 AM

 

What else should Ford, Chevy & Toyota do?  Just make it look like a generic coupe with a manufacturer sticker on it?  I can see doing that in IndyCar & F1, but full bodied race cars like NASCAR, NHRA Pro Stock & Funny Car, SuperCars, etc. need to resemble some type of readily available car, even if it is just "stickers".  They still believe in the "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday" mantra.

 

BTW - I was at the NASCAR Cup race this past weekend at Watkins Glen.  It's a road course with more right turns than left and the Cup cars put on a hell of a show.  It was a blast!

 

It is a generic body. All three are mandated to use the same body with just enough mods to aid in corporate recognition. Look at the roof line.



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Posted 10 August 2018 - 07:39 AM

Meh. Who cares? The France family doesn't give two poops about the old NASCAR fans and the cars bear not even the slightest resemblance to the vehicles on which their stickers are loosely based, so why should anybody give two poops about NASCAR?

 

The Rising Sun wanted to race and the France's showed them where to deposit the check.



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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:29 AM

 

Nobody believes in "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday" any more.   And yes, they could just put a generic nose on every car and say that it's Ford or Chevy or Toyota powered just like prototypes.   Only the die hard brand loyalists would care and there aren't many of those left.

 

They at least still say they believe it.  They could, but the manufacturers still want some brand identity. 

 

 

That's all they are though.

 

That was true a few years ago with the "Car of Tomorrow", but the current cars have a lot more styling than before.  I'm pretty sure the greenhouse is the only thing that each car has in common.

 

Looks like they modeled it loosely off of the GT350.

 

Just wait till they put the GM engines in all of them. Don't think it will happen? Just wait it's coming.

 

The Ilmor engine makes sense for the Truck series, ARCA, and lower series.  I don't like it, but it makes sense.  I don't think you'll ever see it in the Cup or Xfinity series.  If they ever put a "spec" engine in Cup, I will stop watching.

 

 

It is a generic body. All three are mandated to use the same body with just enough mods to aid in corporate recognition. Look at the roof line.

 

The greenhouse is the same for all the cars, but each manufacturer still has a lot of unique styling, more so now than a few years ago.  When they switch manufacturers, they pretty much have to re-body the entire car.


Edited by NLPRacing, 10 August 2018 - 09:30 AM.

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2007 Ford Expedition EL Eddie Bauer 5.4L V8 (Purchased New 05/28/07, wife's daily driver - Sold 06/15/16)

2004 Ford F53 Chassis 6.8L V10 under my 2005 GBM 3500DS Motorhome (Purchased New 10/04 - Sold 09/12/12, replaced with a 2013 Kodiak 300BHSL travel trailer in 10/12)

1995 Ford F150 XLT SuperCab 5.0L V8 (Purchased Used 10/05/12 - Sold 09/23/15)

2014 Ford Fusion Titanium 2.0L EB (Company Car, took delivery on 10/16/14, turned back in 7/24/17)
2014 Ford F150 SVT Raptor SuperCrew 6.2L V8 (Purchased New 12/02/14, my latest toy)

2004 Ford Mustang GT 4.6L V8 (Purchased Used 10/12/15 - Sold 03/17/18)

2017 Ford Explorer Limited 2.3L EB (Ordered 7/20/16, took delivery on 09/14/16, wife's daily driver)

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