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No V-6, really?


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#1 OFFLINE   HotRunrGuy

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 07:36 PM

Anybody else disappointed that there's no V-6 option, like the 2.7EB, being offered in the new Ranger? As impressive as the 4-banger might be, numbers-wise, I just can't wrap my head around this.

 

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#2 OFFLINE   akirby

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 08:37 PM

We’ve been discussing this for months already. The current platform won’t fit a V6. The new platform will in 2-3 years.

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 09:26 PM

We’ve been discussing this for months already. The current platform won’t fit a V6. The new platform will in 2-3 years.

 

Sorry, I looked thru this forum before posting, didn't see anything specific to the V-6.

 

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 10:48 AM

We have the 2.3EB in our Explorer.  I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with it in the Ranger, especially with the 10 speed auto.  What I would like to see is a future Performance Ranger with the Raptor's 3.5EB HO and AWD.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 11:40 AM

The 2.3LEB will push 300 hp and 325 lb/ft (minimally - thinking it may be detuned slightly for truck duty).

 

The SOHC 4.0L Ranger V6 was 210/254.  And the 2.3LEB will give you almost all that torque right off idle.

 

It's going to be an excellent engine for Ranger and more than adequate outside of Raptor/Lightning versions.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 11:48 AM

How it stacks up against Tacoma is all that matters!

 

This is what I read:  TRD Off-Road, Limited, and TRD Pro trims is a 3.5L 24-Valve DOHC Atkinson-Cycle V6 engine which cranks out 278 horsepower and 265 lb-ft of torque.

 

Advantage:  Ranger w/Ecoboost


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:42 PM

Anybody else disappointed that there's no V-6 option, like the 2.7EB, being offered in the new Ranger? As impressive as the 4-banger might be, numbers-wise, I just can't wrap my head around this.

 

HRG

 

I was disappointed initially too. Then I got to test drive a 2018 Mustang with 2.3 liter EcoBoost and 10-speed auto. The turbo lag and other power delivery issues with other EcoBoost engines have largely been fixed. 

 

I'm confident that this powertrain will suit the U.S. Ford Ranger well. I plan to make 2019 or 2020 Ranger my next truck.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 08:27 PM

There is no turbo lag in ecoboost engines therefore there is nothing to fix.
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Posted 08 August 2018 - 09:16 PM

There is no turbo lag in ecoboost engines therefore there is nothing to fix.

 

All gasoline and diesel engines with exhaust driven turbochargers have turbo lag. Physics dictates this. Exhaust flow at low engine speeds particularly at idle is constrained. That means there will be a pause before the turbine spools up.

 

Many newer designs reduce turbo lag significantly. Techniques such as twin scroll, variable geometry, precise control of boost pressure and other software optimizations, etc. can be used.

 

2.3L Ecoboost demonstrates this improvement. Same deal with JLR Ingenium engines. 2018 Mustang EcoBoost I test drove and my own Jaguar XF turbodiesel show night and day difference in minimizing lag compared to Ford and JLR vehicles with older EcoBoost engines.

 

I'm satisfied with 2.3L Ecoboost & 10 speed auto powertrain being the only choice in new Ford Ranger for U.S.


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