Rickyrich7 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 word is that frap is going back to 5 8s in October with line speed slowing to 40 jph and then shift will be cut by February Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Where did that come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyrich7 Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 Its all over the plant....Continental is not selling much and after 2019 model we wont be building it, no new work for at least another 2 years coming in , nobody will be laid off tho I believe they will just be sending people to MAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Ok first off MAP isnt bringing on more people until late next year at earliest and second you guys will be getting the new Transit Connect sometime in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Ok first off MAP isnt bringing on more people until late next year at earliest and second you guys will be getting the new Transit Connect sometime in 2020. I guess that will be part of the new AV/Electric vehicle they are getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) I do feel bad for FRAP, this plant faces chronic uncertainty. I'm not sure if Ford will ever be able to fully utilize this plant again unless they shift product from Mexico. Edited August 1, 2018 by Assimilator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 I do feel bad for FRAP, this plant faces chronic uncertainty. I'm not sure if Ford will ever be able to fully utilize this plant again unless they shift product from Mexico. Wait, they have fully utilized that plant at one time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 It's my impression that the Mach1 is being built in Mexico and the Transit Connects are getting AV retrofits across the street from FRAP at a newly constructed facility. Both products are relatively lower volume, Transit Connect is a fairly slow selling product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Start building it here and Transit Connect Sales will grow, I guarantee it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyrich7 Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) Ok first off MAP isnt bringing on more people until late next year at earliest and second you guys will be getting the new Transit Connect sometime in 2020.Well I did say we werent getting any new work for at least 2 years and Im sure they will need to bring in people at map to train for the other shifts....they will probably have 2 shifts worth of people working on one shift like they did frap before the fusion launched to train Edited August 2, 2018 by Rickyrich7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyrich7 Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) Never know what could happen tho things change everyday but the line speed is being reduced and when that happens 1 shift comes next Edited August 2, 2018 by Rickyrich7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) Start building it here and Transit Connect Sales will grow, I guarantee it The entire market has been shrinking quite a bit, not sure that's necessarily true unless gas prices go up considerably. I would like to see them built here but I'm having a hard time seeing the wisdom in doing so unless A/V is indeed a huge part of their outlook. Edited August 2, 2018 by Assimilator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Well I did say we werent getting any new work for at least 2 years and Im sure they will need to bring in people at map to train for the other shifts....they will probably have 2 shifts worth of people working on one shift like they did frap before the fusion launched to train depends on when they decide to launch the Bronco. Plant chairman told is 3 weeks ago that still isnt 100% decided yet. They dont even want to give us a tentative window yet so anything is truly a guess right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pffan1990 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 It's my impression that the Mach1 is being built in Mexico and the Transit Connects are getting AV retrofits across the street from FRAP at a newly constructed facility. Both products are relatively lower volume, Transit Connect is a fairly slow selling product. I know the next generation Transit Connect is being moved to Detroit. Is it the FRAP or that new building they are doing? I know they're using the TC for AV so are they only building the TC AVs or all TC (cargo and passenger; gas and diesel)? I'm sure when FRAP goes one shift next year, Ford will figure out where to transfer the existing workers. I hope they won't be laid off. The Ranger will have been in production by then. Perhaps Chicago to get ready for new Explorer/Aviator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I know the next generation Transit Connect is being moved to Detroit. Is it the FRAP or that new building they are doing? I know they're using the TC for AV so are they only building the TC AVs or all TC (cargo and passenger; gas and diesel)? I'm sure when FRAP goes one shift next year, Ford will figure out where to transfer the existing workers. I hope they won't be laid off. The Ranger will have been in production by then. Perhaps Chicago to get ready for new Explorer/Aviator? As long as MAP is only building the Ranger we will only be on one shift. Chicago doesnt need people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decker Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Chicago will see an increase in the hourly work force of 600 or so by December of this year. I`m not sure when but I`m sure you will see Chicago transfer paperwork on the boards very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Chicago will see an increase in the hourly work force of 600 or so by December of this year. I`m not sure when but I`m sure you will see Chicago transfer paperwork on the boards very soon. Only if the plant has a surplus of workers, which at the moment none do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyrich7 Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 Chicago will see an increase in the hourly work force of 600 or so by December of this year. I`m not sure when but I`m sure you will see Chicago transfer paperwork on the boards very soon. this was actually confirmed by a union rep months ago....there are people here from Chicago and he said they will have chance to go back soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyrich7 Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 Only if the plant has a surplus of workers, which at the moment none do. they are working on cutting jobs as we speak preparing for reduction in line speed so I wouldnt be surprised if that posting came up the next few months...6 jobs cut per unit right now their goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decker Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) You are correct Fuzzy, but two things will circumvent the master language on the transfer abilities. First the agreement has to be made with both the exiting local or locals and the receiving local. The 551 is pushing for transfers over hiring off the street (from the Ill. Unemployment Services) (that's in it`s self is another whole post...) because this will allow for returns and entry level members to come. Then the second reason, of course the only real reason Ford is in business for, is the money. It will be the intent to pull more entry level and non legacy members to Chicago so as to bring in off the streets of Michigan the new under entry level employee`s. I remember it being said that we won`t see any more TPT`ers or LTS`ers or STPT`ers in the last hard sell we went through well, there here and we will see even more over the next year annnd wait till the next hard sell comes along, if its like what's happening with the USW`s we will see an even lower tier.... CAP isn`t the only plant in or will be in a push for more of us to start coming through the doors. Fuzzy hang in there you may be able to transfer to where you want to be. The labor shortage is here. Edited August 2, 2018 by Decker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I appreciate the concern, Im good with where I am. Cant go wrong stamping parts for F-150s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) The new paint shop I heard FRAP was getting has also been cancelled. I guess Hackett the Hatchet has to pay for Ford's train station social engineering project Edited August 6, 2018 by Footballfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnm Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Saw a posting for CAP today..... needing 180 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyrich7 Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 Saw a posting for CAP today..... needing 180 what plant are you at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnm Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Cleveland Engine Plant. I think there are a few laid off tradesmen that are eligible to sign if they wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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