Anthony Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 https://jalopnik.com/dead-cadillac-ats-sedan-1825886671?utm_medium=socialflow&utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=jalopnik_facebook This comes to us from a Cadillac official who confirmed the news to Autoblog. “Production of the ATS Sedan is ending due to extensive plant upgrades, expansion and re-tooling to prepare for the next generation of Cadillac sedans,” spokesman Donny Nordlicht said. The last we heard, the ATS and larger CTS would be replaced by just one mid-sized sedan called the CT5, and an even smaller Audi A3-sized competitor was also in the works, possibly called the CT3 or CT4. Looks like the Coupe lives on for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 https://jalopnik.com/dead-cadillac-ats-sedan-1825886671?utm_medium=socialflow&utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=jalopnik_facebook Looks like the Coupe lives on for now. LOL, why keep the coupe? What do they sell about 5 of them a month? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 LOL, why keep the coupe? What do they sell about 5 of them a month? Because........GM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 LOL, why keep the coupe? What do they sell about 5 of them a month? I wonder if it's because the Camaro and ATS coupe are built at the same assembly plant. Maybe something involving common tooling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) LOL, why keep the coupe? What do they sell about 5 of them a month? ATS Coupe was introduced 1 year after the sedan. Thus it has 1 more year left in its life cycle. This is similar to BMW's release schedule for 3-Series sedan vs. 4-Series coupe. Cars.com says that in 1Q 2018, Cadillac sold 585 ATS coupes in the U.S. Less than 15% of total ATS sales. But more than 5 a month for sure. https://www.cars.com/articles/rip-cadillac-ats-another-sedan-pops-its-clogs-1420699937302/ Edited May 10, 2018 by rperez817 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) ATS Coupe was introduced 1 year after the sedan. Thus it has 1 more year left in its life cycle. This is similar to BMW's release schedule for 3-Series sedan vs. 4-Series coupe. Cars.com says that in 1Q 2018, Cadillac sold 585 ATS coupes in the U.S. Less than 15% of total ATS sales. But more than 5 a month for sure. https://www.cars.com/articles/rip-cadillac-ats-another-sedan-pops-its-clogs-1420699937302/ So selling less then 50 a month warrants keeping it? That's what, roughly half a car per dealer in an entire year? Edited May 10, 2018 by blwnsmoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 So selling less then 50 a month warrants keeping it? That's what, roughly half a car per dealer in an entire year? Yes sir. Cadillac needs something in the compact sedan/coupe category until the new generation CT3 and CT4 comes out. The new models won't be available until next year. There are about 900 Cadillac dealers in the U.S. That would make for about 2.5 ATS coupes sold per dealership per year on average using the 1Q 2018 sales rate. Of course some dealerships sell more, others sell fewer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 ATS Coupe was introduced 1 year after the sedan. Thus it has 1 more year left in its life cycle. This is similar to BMW's release schedule for 3-Series sedan vs. 4-Series coupe. Cars.com says that in 1Q 2018, Cadillac sold 585 ATS coupes in the U.S. Less than 15% of total ATS sales. But more than 5 a month for sure. https://www.cars.com/articles/rip-cadillac-ats-another-sedan-pops-its-clogs-1420699937302/ I'm not buying this argument. 5 a month was obviously an exaggeration. So by your logic, it makes sense to keep producing it......for 195 units a month? And that's if they maintain that sales rate, which is doubtful at best. All because it debuted a year after the sedan, so it has a year left? I wonder if it's because the Camaro and ATS coupe are built at the same assembly plant. Maybe something involving common tooling. Is the ATS sedan built elsewhere? I could understand this logic if the sedan and coupe a produced at separate facilities, and as you said, some components are shared between the coupe and Camaro. It's certainly a more understandable/realistic theory than rperez's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 They're both built at Lansing in the same plant. However, I think Cadillac still races an ATS-V in one of the IMSA series so they may have to keep it in production to keep racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 They're both built at Lansing in the same plant. However, I think Cadillac still races an ATS-V in one of the IMSA series so they may have to keep it in production to keep racing. Hmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Not a bad looking race car, actually..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Cadillacs of the last decade or so going back to the original CTS have all made good looking race cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMSA-XJR9 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 They're both built at Lansing in the same plant. However, I think Cadillac still races an ATS-V in one of the IMSA series so they may have to keep it in production to keep racing. Cadillac pulled the ATS-V out of competition (Pirelli World Challenge) last fall, only the IMSA Cadillac Prototypes remain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Ahh....well then I don't see any good rationale for keeping it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadicalX Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) Exchange names for codes, like Lincoln already did, and Cadillac still insists, seems too forced to approach the Germans. Especially as long as it's a traditional "Escalade" messing up the car lineup with Cadillac codes. You make it clear that the Escalade worked, so they decided to keep their name so they wouldn't risk trading for a XT8 and losing a customer, while the others went wrong and risked CT's names to get close to the German sedans. Real names heartbeat more authentic for Cadillac, like Escalade, scale, etc. E-s-c-a-l-a-d-e XT5 XT4 CT6 CT5 It's a mess. Either keep all the code, or swap everything for real names. Edited May 10, 2018 by RadicalX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 My co-worker has a used ATS. When he told another woman we work with she said "aren't Caddy's gas guzzlers?" Some still think they still build 1976 tanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadicalX Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) My co-worker has a used ATS. When he told another woman we work with she said "aren't Caddy's gas guzzlers?" Some still think they still build 1976 tanks. It is very dangerous when a luxury car brand is dedicated only to sportsmanship to offset the handicap in the luxury segment. Instead of being admired by sportsmanship, it's going to be seen as a guzzling V8 car factory, not boasting. Performance by performance I choose a Dodge Charger Edited May 10, 2018 by RadicalX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 CT4 and CT5 are expected to replace ATS and CTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Yes sir. Cadillac needs something in the compact sedan/coupe category until the new generation CT3 and CT4 comes out. . Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 . Why? Because it's the obligation of all car companies to make vehicles that internet enthusiasts say that they like, even if they only buy them used. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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