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2021 Mustang on CD6

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There was a battle within Ford as to whether to do an enlarged high deck Mod on what became Coyote

or to go with 5.8/6.2 Hurricane - resurrected as 6.2 Boss. And as we know the boss won out......

 

Just my opinion but 5.0 & 5.8 Coyote would have been a blast and left Ford with Boss at a +7.0 liter V8 from get go

 

....job done.

I think Ford should make a 5.8-7.x Boss series the standard V8 while the EB v6 picks up where the 5.0 left off. More commonality in the future but the 5.0 still have potential.

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Rather than take the Lincoln Aviator thread off-topic with more CD6 Mustang discussion, I thought I'd add this here.

Next-gen S650 Mustang pushed back from March 2022 to May 2022, according to AutoForecast Solutions

http://www.autoline.tv/daily/

(skip to 4m 25secs)

Guess that'll make S650 a '23MY............that seems a L O N G way off 😥

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Given the timing of the GT500, I’d think they’d keep it in production for more then 2 years. I can see another refresh in the next 18 months If it’s that far off. 

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Does this mean no V8 in the Mustang?

 

Engines

It is believed that the CD6 platform supports various four- and six-cylinder Ford Motor Company engines, including:

  • 2.0L Turbo EcoBoost I4
  • 2.3L Turbo EcoBoost I4
  • 2.7L Turbo EcoBoost V6
  • 3.5L Duratec-Cyclone V6
  • 3.7L Duratec-Cyclone V6
  • 3.5L Twin-Turbo EcoBoost V6

It is believed that the Ford CD6 platform is capable of supporting the following transmissions:

  • Ford 6F 6-speed automatic (transverse applications)
  • Ford 10-speed automatic (longitudinal applications)
  • Ford 8-speed automatic (transverse applications)

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2 hours ago, Assimilator said:

That list is wrong, and new Mustang is not CD6 anyway.  

I get soooo confused!

Are you saying S650 will be a modified S550 then. If so, why is it such a long way off in 2022?   And why, after all Ford has said about using a set number of "architectures", would Mustang use a bespoke platform/architecture?

Some are suggesting CD6 is likely nothing more than a thoroughly redesigned S550.....whilst others suggest CD6 is all new. 

 

 

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CD6 is the RWD architecture and the Mustang is now grouped with or falls under its control?

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So this is kind of interesting, we may have a 4 wheel drive CUV Mustang with V6TT power. Should be a monster!

Edited by coupe3w

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Not a chance, it's just that the parts sets and modules for unit body RWD  are all grouped under CD6, that doesn't mean the next Mustang will be an Explorer with a Mustang body, quite the opposite in fact as Mustang is such an unique style and parts set....

Edited by jpd80

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The RWD architectures fall under the same program and share similar modules, but the platform are not shared.  CD6 is not based on Mustang anymore than CD4 is based on S550 just because they share a suspension design.  The modules are designed to work in each platform (that includes the power packs, EPAS, Suspensions, Electrical, Safety systems, AV components, etc.).  This is actually nothing new, but the way Ford is structuring their engineering teams is  more efficient.  Ford still doesn't believe in modular platforms, just shared "Architectures".  The platform hard points are still custom for each vehicle but all the systems are sharable which is where the real complexity can come from.  You can have a modular platform but a half dozen EPAS systems, that doesn't make the platform more effecient.  That's actually the problem Ford had even after platform consolidation.

This is actually why Ford can say they have a single "RWD Truck Architecture" even if Ranger, Bronco, Everest, F-150, SuperDuty, Expedition do NOT share the same platforms now or in the future.  

 

Edited by Assimilator

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Except Ford very specifically said it would only have one unibody RWD platform.   Not one for Mustang and one for everything else.

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1 hour ago, jpd80 said:

Not a chance, it's just that the parts sets and modules for unit body RWD  are all grouped under CD6, that doesn't mean the next Mustang will be an Explorer with a Mustang body, quite the opposite in fact as Mustang is such an unique style and parts set....

Or even more likely, they will share certain parts like wire harnesses, suspension parts, power trains, etc. I don't see much in the way of sheetmetal sharing-maybe passenger cell protection techquines etc. 

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22 hours ago, Assimilator said:

The RWD architectures fall under the same program and share similar modules, but the platform are not shared.  CD6 is not based on Mustang anymore than CD4 is based on S550 just because they share a suspension design.  The modules are designed to work in each platform (that includes the power packs, EPAS, Suspensions, Electrical, Safety systems, AV components, etc.).  This is actually nothing new, but the way Ford is structuring their engineering teams is  more efficient.  Ford still doesn't believe in modular platforms, just shared "Architectures".  The platform hard points are still custom for each vehicle but all the systems are sharable which is where the real complexity can come from.  You can have a modular platform but a half dozen EPAS systems, that doesn't make the platform more effecient.  That's actually the problem Ford had even after platform consolidation.

This is actually why Ford can say they have a single "RWD Truck Architecture" even if Ranger, Bronco, Everest, F-150, SuperDuty, Expedition do NOT share the same platforms now or in the future.  

 

Thank you, that's a good explanation. 👍

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