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#1 OFFLINE   coupe3w

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 02:33 PM

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 02:44 PM

So it took a car with 108 HP more than the GT to get a better lap?  Ohh, I'm shocked...



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Posted 01 February 2018 - 02:53 PM

And 2.7L bigger engine with 2 more cylinders.

 

Also, I don't think the GT team was even trying to beat a record.  They were just doing some testing on a customer vehicle.

 

But here's the kicker - that Corvette isn't even legal at LeMans.  4.0L is the limit on blown engines.

 

Side note - was that article written by Fox News or by Chevrolet?  Talk about fanbois......


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Posted 01 February 2018 - 03:13 PM

And 2.7L bigger engine with 2 more cylinders.

 

Also, I don't think the GT team was even trying to beat a record.  They were just doing some testing on a customer vehicle.

 

But here's the kicker - that Corvette isn't even legal at LeMans.  4.0L is the limit on blown engines.

 

Side note - was that article written by Fox News or by Chevrolet?  Talk about fanbois......

 

Ford built the GT because of Le Mans. It was kept in a certain spec for racing purposes. It fulfilled it's obligations because it did win and brought attention to the anniversary. It did this all while being a test bed for Ford Performance and ecoboost technology. All the while selling out of the 250/year that will be built for the road at 500k a pop. However as a Ford fan,  Chevy has been kicking the teeth of Ford for a while in the performance department and the ZR1  just adds to it. They also get more mileage and press out of it too. Within minutes of the press release, this was on the front page of the Detroit News and Free press, as well as Car and Driver.  Maybe if they ever release the GT500 Ford will be able to trounce the guys in the RenCen.


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Posted 01 February 2018 - 04:07 PM

Chevy's answer is always a bigger engine and harder springs which kills normal street use.   Ford takes a more balanced approach which I like way better.    Camaro has always outperformed Mustang but it almost never outsells it.


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Posted 01 February 2018 - 07:13 PM

Ever since Ford made the Mod motor GM / Chevy has kicked Fords butt in the HP Torque department. There is no replacement for displacement it's a fact. Ford designed the Mod motor to meet the stricter emissions, but GM has had no problem with a single camshaft and 2 valves per cylinder. Yes, the newer coyote motor is better but still more complex and physically a much bigger package.



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Posted 01 February 2018 - 09:50 PM

Chevy is going for bragging rights, I get it, but Ford could counter that by adding a bigger motor or higher HP tune to the 3.5 in the GT, and likely get the record back.

With that said, hats off to Chevy for doing what they did with a car at a $125k price point. The car doesnt have the cache of the GT, but its still impressive nonetheless.

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 06:58 AM

Chevy is going for bragging rights, I get it, but Ford could counter that by adding a bigger motor or higher HP tune to the 3.5 in the GT, and likely get the record back.

With that said, hats off to Chevy for doing what they did with a car at a $125k price point. The car doesnt have the cache of the GT, but its still impressive nonetheless.

 

Do you think if Ford did a HP upgrade to the GT now it would piss off the existing owners? I guess if it's done with a "tune" it would be OK.



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Posted 02 February 2018 - 08:40 AM

They dont need a HP upgrade. The GT will be faster on other tracks, not that it really matters either way.

The GT is still drop dead gorgeous.

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 06:36 PM

They dont need a HP upgrade. The GT will be faster on other tracks, not that it really matters either way.

The GT is still drop dead gorgeous.

I agree it is a nice looking car. The test comparison is not legit anyway. They have to test with the same driver on the same day to be fair.



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Posted 03 February 2018 - 04:07 PM

They dont need a HP upgrade. The GT will be faster on other tracks, not that it really matters either way.

The GT is still drop dead gorgeous.

Hum this was on a race track and it wasn't faster. At $400K+ it should be walking all over the Vette. Sorry akirby, but Ecoboost V6 doesn't cut it in a car of this caliber. Not saying there is anything wrong with the V6 TT, but it just doesn't belong in this car. I know Ford is trying to promote the Ecoboost technology and there is nothing wrong with that, but it just doesn't belong in this car. Just my opinion.



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Posted 03 February 2018 - 04:22 PM

It won LeMans and Rolex 24 at Daytona. Cant be too bad. The Vette engine is not legal for LeMans or WEC.

The vette has a HP advantage but its nose heavy compared to the GT, so I expect the GT to be faster at tracks that favor handling over HP.

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 10:41 AM

It won LeMans and Rolex 24 at Daytona. Cant be too bad. The Vette engine is not legal for LeMans or WEC.

The vette has a HP advantage but its nose heavy compared to the GT, so I expect the GT to be faster at tracks that favor handling over HP.

I know it won. And I am happy it did, but with the BOP rules it can be set back on it's heals on a moments notice.

My feeling is that the GT should be faster than the Vette at any race track weather it be a HP or handling track for the money.



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 10:52 AM

The Vette looks like it was styled by JC Whitney. Too boy racer for me.

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 11:31 AM

I know it won. And I am happy it did, but with the BOP rules it can be set back on it's heals on a moments notice.
My feeling is that the GT should be faster than the Vette at any race track weather it be a HP or handling track for the money.


That’s just not practical. I’m sure that vette is faster than Ferraris and Lambos and other exotics as well.

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 12:13 PM

That’s just not practical. I’m sure that vette is faster than Ferraris and Lambos and other exotics as well.

What's not practical? All Ford needs to do is build a slightly bigger V6 (same block / packaging) add a bit more boost and you have more HP. That engine is capable of 1000 HP+. Sounds very practical to me. And for the price it sure  is doable.



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 12:23 PM

What’s the benefit to Ford? It won’t affect the race cars either way - they make a lot less power than the road versions. It won’t sell more cars. Let’s say Ford does add a bit more power - Chevy will go back and add more too. I guarantee the GT is a much better daily driver.

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 03:43 PM

What’s the benefit to Ford? It won’t affect the race cars either way - they make a lot less power than the road versions. It won’t sell more cars. Let’s say Ford does add a bit more power - Chevy will go back and add more too. I guarantee the GT is a much better daily driver.

Then why go and race at all? Didn't Ford build the GT to win Le Mans which they did. Isn't competition good for the marque? So what if Chevy adds more power Ford can do the same thing or can they?



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 05:24 PM

Get back to me when that Corvette beats the GT in a real race.
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Posted 05 February 2018 - 03:18 PM

Then why go and race at all? Didn't Ford build the GT to win Le Mans which they did. Isn't competition good for the marque? So what if Chevy adds more power Ford can do the same thing or can they?

Keep calm, watch this video.  The race GT with the V6 Ecoboost is a full 10 seconds or more faster than the consumer GT.   The Corvette wouldn't stand a chance.  And add a more complex track that favors handling like "the ring" - not even a fair fight.

 










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