Anthony Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North%20America/US/2017/11/01/oct-17-sales-rls.pdf Ford Posts 6.2 Percent October Sales Gain, Marks Best F-Series Sales in 13 Years; Ford Brand SUV Sales Up 4.6 Percent, While Strong Customer Demand Lifts Lincoln SUV Sales 13.1 Percent Highlights: Ford Motor Company’s U.S. sales increased 6.2 percent last month, with 200,436 vehicles sold Retail performance was up 3.5 percent versus a year ago, on sales of 148,105 vehicles Fleet sales, as expected, increased 14.6 percent due to order timing, with 52,331 vehicles sold F-Series sales totaled 75,974 trucks for October, a 15.9 percent gain. Overall F-Series average transaction prices increased $4,000 versus last year, to $47,300, with strong new F-150 high series demand and continued strong demand for high series Super Duty Ford brand SUV sales totaled 57,637 vehicles, a gain of 4.6 percent overall and a 9.0 percent increase at retail Sales of Edge increased 36.9 percent, with overall sales of 11,036 vehicles. Last month represents Edge’s best October performance since its first year of launch in 2007 Explorer performance was up 5.0 percent, with sales totaling 16,914 vehicles. Explorer performed even better at retail, posting a 13.1 percent gain Focus sales increased 7.8 percent in October, the fourth straight month of gains. Focus performance models, Focus ST and RS, were up 42.3 percent Lincoln SUV sales gained 13.1 percent; MKC, MKX and Navigator sales all saw increases Edited November 1, 2017 by Anthony 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Solid month...no surprises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 They must have bumped the rebates on C-MAX. Cars down across the board, but still sold over 40K units. SUVs - 57K units and holding steady YTD. Navi and Expy will bump that nicely. Who says Ford only sells F-series? Speaking of F-series - 75K units????? Are you kidding me? That's 900K/yr. Think they'll hit 1M next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Transit and Transit Connect are down for the year. Is that due to cyclical fleet sales or was last year higher than expected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanatWork Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 The most important take from this, obviously, is that the Flex almost doubled its sales. One brave vehicle in a sea of melted soap bars...! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Transit and Transit Connect are down for the year. Is that due to cyclical fleet sales or was last year higher than expected? I noticed FCA's fleet sales are way down too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I noticed FCA's fleet sales are way down too. But I think that was mostly daily rental sales not necessarily commercial and government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 They must have bumped the rebates on C-MAX. We built a shitload of them at the end of the 2017 buildout. However since the 18s started we've only been building about 120 a day between both shifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Looks like the $6500 rebates on the Edge did work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcartwright99 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Transit and Transit Connect are down for the year. Is that due to cyclical fleet sales or was last year higher than expected? I think there are two things. Transit has recall issues with rear drive part (can't remember what exactly. Both are experience heavy competition now. There are at least two other competitors to the transit connect now ( Dodge and Mercedes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 $6500 rebates? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) They must have bumped the rebates on C-MAX. Or maybe there was a big fleet delivery this month. Transit and Transit Connect are down for the year. Is that due to cyclical fleet sales or was last year higher than expected? Transit had a stop sale earlier this year so that probably hurt its number a bit. Transit Connect is likely being volume controlled because Ford is likely to lose the Chicken Tax case. I noticed a lot of Ford dealers in LA area that used to sell tons of them stopped advertising it on the local papers - which means Ford pulled the co-op ad money on the van. You can still order it and Ford will probably do fleet deals if a big buyer wants it but doesn't seem like Ford is really trying to sell a ton of them. Ford was on track to sell 70k Transit Connect a few years ago but once the Treasury Dept got into the Chicken Tax avoidance case, sales started trending down. The two are probably related. Edited November 1, 2017 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 $6500 rebates? Really? Was AXZ Plan but was $1500 (Conquest) $1,000, $2,000, $1,000, $1,000. Needed to own another brand in the household or would just be $5000. Though they are still at $5000 today, the conquest ended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I'm only seeing $4K on the leftover 2017s, $2K on the 2018s (X plan). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisH Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Slightly off topic comment. How do you qualify for the X plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Or maybe there was a big fleet delivery this month. Transit had a stop sale earlier this year so that probably hurt its number a bit. Transit Connect is likely being volume controlled because Ford is likely to lose the Chicken Tax case. I noticed a lot of Ford dealers in LA area that used to sell tons of them stopped advertising it on the local papers - which means Ford pulled the co-op ad money on the van. You can still order it and Ford will probably do fleet deals if a big buyer wants it but doesn't seem like Ford is really trying to sell a ton of them. Ford was on track to sell 70k Transit Connect a few years ago but once the Treasury Dept got into the Chicken Tax avoidance case, sales started trending down. The two are probably related. What is preventing the Trandit Connect from being built in NA? Seems like Ford has the capacity. Im starting to see more of the other manufacturers equivalent vehicles around here, which seemed to be dominated by Ford previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Slightly off topic comment. How do you qualify for the X plan? You have to be friends or family with a Ford employee or you have to work for a Ford partner company (that's how I get mine). Some clubs also offer them such as the mustang club of america. Or if you have 100 shares of Ford stock for at least 6 months. It's not the deal it used to be when it was slightly below dealer invoice. Now it's $100 - $150 above invoice - but it's still a good no haggle price and the dealer can't stick you with additional or exorbitant fees or make you take dealer add-ons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Seems like Ford has the capacity. Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Where? Cuactitlan for starters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Cuactitlan for starters I thought it was destined to get the new Ecosport and at least one other new vehicle within the next 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I thought it was destined to get the new Ecosport and at least one other new vehicle within the next 2 years. just throwing darts here, but what if TC was the second one? Ecosport by itself won't be nearly enough volume for that plant's capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Plus with the decline of the midsize sedan market, there's now available capacity at Hermosillo, there's still capacity at KCAP1 with the Transit, there's still capacity at FRAP (always has been), Oakville and MAP. MAP can obviously be ruled out because of the upcoming Ranger and Bronco (which by all indications will still leave excess capacity). FRAP can probably be ruled out thanks to that mythical self driving electric SUV project and the fact that Ford still doesn't seem to realize what they have in that plant. That leaves Oakville, Hermosillo, KCAP 1 and Cuactitlan that all have some capacity available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Plus with the decline of the midsize sedan market, there's now available capacity at Hermosillo, there's still capacity at KCAP1 with the Transit, there's still capacity at FRAP (always has been), Oakville and MAP. MAP can obviously be ruled out because of the upcoming Ranger and Bronco (which by all indications will still leave excess capacity). FRAP can probably be ruled out thanks to that mythical self driving electric SUV project and the fact that Ford still doesn't seem to realize what they have in that plant. That leaves Oakville, Hermosillo, KCAP 1 and Cuactitlan that all have some capacity available. Why would MAP be ruled out? I don't see Ranger/Bronco/whatever more than 200K. I don't think Fusion sales will stay this low. I think they'll rebound back to 20K/month once they refresh the tophat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 just throwing darts here, but what if TC was the second one? Ecosport by itself won't be nearly enough volume for that plant's capacity. I think it was listed as a small C platform crossover. This was in the internal document that was posted last year (which itself was over a year old). We know they're adding a small C crossover and it won't fit in Louisville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I think it was listed as a small C platform crossover. This was in the internal document that was posted last year (which itself was over a year old). We know they're adding a small C crossover and it won't fit in Louisville. I think the Small C Crossover is now being called Gen X Crossover in internal documents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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