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Indisputable results - fantasic 2.0-L ecoBoost in Escape AWD

ecoboost 2.0-l mileage

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#21 OFFLINE   phil1336

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 06:38 PM

Funny you mention that.  I'm on Captiva island for a bit of a vacation right now.   The Ford is at the airport for when I get back though.  I rented a Hyundai shitbox for the week and plant to leave it parked.

 

I'll bet living down here in the heat, you did not opt for the BLACK paint on yours.

 

 

Love North Captiva Island but just a bit too pricey especially "In Season". I cross over Alligator Alley every month or two for a dose of Naples  and Marco Island. Neither inexpensive but still more reasonable then Sanibel & Captiva Island or Key West for that matter.









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Posted 20 February 2018 - 06:38 PM

At first I hated that "rust" color they have but I started to really like it and would have picked it if it was available to me at the time.   It looked like the Martian military colors in my favorite SF book series by S.A.Corey.   My family hated it.

I ended up with black because it was on the lot with the titanium package and the things I wanted, the price was right, and choosing another color would have meant bringing one in from elsewhere at a significant price difference to my pocket.

 

 

Actually, Shadow Black was my second choice for my 2018 Ford EcoSport. Tired of "50 Shades of Grey" so Diamond White was an easy choice. Finally a richer softer White pallette that Ford finally offers. A half Century of Oxford White?  Enough is enough.



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 07:41 PM

The smaller the engine, the more variable the mileage is going to be.  The two biggest factors you can influence are:

1.  Weight.   The more stuff you carry, the worse mileage and it will have a much bigger impact on a  lightweight car with a smaller engine.

 

2.  Driving style.   If you keep your foot out of it, accelerate slowly, and keep your speed closer to 55 than 75, you'll do much better.   The smaller engine will be MUCH more impacted by a heavy foot and by having to fight the wind at higher speeds.

 

 

 

The EPA Fuel Economy Estimates with the same drive train on a Focus with similar weight were much better?  Go figure. Maybe the aerodynamics were better on the Focus.



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 08:58 PM

As I said, in smaller, lightweight vehicles the aerodynamics are a much bigger difference. People don't realize how much horsepower it takes to fight wind, and it's the same whether you have a big engine or a small one.

The EPA Fuel Economy Estimates with the same drive train on a Focus with similar weight were much better?  Go figure. Maybe the aerodynamics were better on the Focus.



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 09:18 PM

 

I know, we have rehashed the matter before but after the 2013 Ford C-Max fiasco with a EPA 47 mpg.....just hoping that this Mini-Escape gets close to the Fuel economy my 2017 Honda HR-V gets. An engine slightly larger then a decent size Moped (should) break the 30 mpg mark!

I have a 2013 C-Max and averaging 49 over the 69000 miles since purchase.  I have found rain lowers the MPG more than HVAC, lights or other options.



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Posted 22 February 2018 - 05:49 PM

I have a 2013 C-Max and averaging 49 over the 69000 miles since purchase.  I have found rain lowers the MPG more than HVAC, lights or other options.

 

Thats amazing.  My 2013 C-Max with 43K driven since July of 13` an recently Traded In for a 18` EcoSport (never) broke 40 mpg be it City or Highway.  No complaining mine you.  For a vehicles its size with plenty of Pep & Power getting 38-39 mpg be it stop an go city traffic for running down the Interstate  at 75-80 mph, no change. Was never into to "hyper-miling" an driving with a raw egg positioned under the accelerator or being driven off the Highway attempting to maintain 50 mph.



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Posted 20 March 2018 - 09:32 AM

I had an Edge with the 2.0L in it for a ski trip - Denver to Steamboat; it averaged somewhere around 22-24 however that I drove in and out in a snow storm and it's AWD system worked perfectly and yeah it's got all the go I want. I am about due for a newer car I am going to look at the Edge with the 2.0 EB.



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Posted 20 March 2018 - 09:33 AM

Edge with the 2.0T won’t be as nimble as the Escape - it’s much heavier. Just make sure you take a good test drive.

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Posted 20 March 2018 - 10:03 AM

The Edge looked really nice, but I didn't see the added value for me and my needs that would justify the price jump for a comparably equipped model.  I did like the wider stance and the resulting interior room, but I've been extremely happy with the Escape Titanium and have no regrets after just about a year and almost 17,000 miles.

 

 

I had an Edge with the 2.0L in it for a ski trip - Denver to Steamboat; it averaged somewhere around 22-24 however that I drove in and out in a snow storm and it's AWD system worked perfectly and yeah it's got all the go I want. I am about due for a newer car I am going to look at the Edge with the 2.0 EB.



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Posted 20 March 2018 - 10:39 AM

I will say there is a night and day different between the Edge and Escape when it comes to NVH (Noise/Vibration/Harshness).  The Edge is like a vault, especially with the 2.0L EB which is incredibly smooth and quiet in the Edge, it's definitely the quietest drivetrain I've ever experienced in any car, luxury or not.  By comparison, the Escape is course and loud and the engine idles fairly rough from time to time (I've been in TONS of these cars all the way to the 2018 model).  Escape doesn't hold up as well, they start to get rattly and creaky while the Edge still feels new after 100,000 miles.  The CD4 platform is pretty outstanding, it deserves a ton of credit.  

 

The driving dynamics in the Escape are incredible, that car is fun as hell to drive but it's also more twitchy and less settled than the Edge.  For my money I definitely prefer Edge hands down, I don't like the harshness of the Escape but there are advantages if you want more sporting performance with your 2.0L EB.  



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Posted 20 March 2018 - 10:57 AM

100% Agree.  The Edge is glorious and a major step up from the Escape.   It also comes with a big jump in the price.    The edge drives more like my 2004 Pacifica did -- which was the same 5-link suspension as the Mercedes Benz and drove brilliantly until the frame cross member rusted.

I sold a Subaru CrossTrek when I bought the Escape Titanium and I'd say that's a way bigger step up than the Escape to the Edge.   I liked the Subaru but it was as skateboard by comparison.  It was loud and bumpy and twitch and couldn't pull anything useful.   It was a "2 hour car" and I needed a "7 hour car".

It's really a question of what matches your needs.  I think the Escape drives like a much sturdier vehicle than it is, pulls everything I need, and gives me a ride that is much more smooth and quiet than any Subaru that ever rolled off the lot.
 

I will say there is a night and day different between the Edge and Escape when it comes to NVH (Noise/Vibration/Harshness).  The Edge is like a vault, especially with the 2.0L EB which is incredibly smooth and quiet in the Edge, it's definitely the quietest drivetrain I've ever experienced in any car, luxury or not.  By comparison, the Escape is course and loud and the engine idles fairly rough from time to time (I've been in TONS of these cars all the way to the 2018 model).  Escape doesn't hold up as well, they start to get rattly and creaky while the Edge still feels new after 100,000 miles.  The CD4 platform is pretty outstanding, it deserves a ton of credit.  

 

The driving dynamics in the Escape are incredible, that car is fun as hell to drive but it's also more twitchy and less settled than the Edge.  For my money I definitely prefer Edge hands down, I don't like the harshness of the Escape but there are advantages if you want more sporting performance with your 2.0L EB.  










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