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We had a brand new 1978 F350 4X2 12' rack truck at my dads TV and Appliance shop with the 351M and granny gear four speed manual. That thing was a beast. It was metallic dark brown.

 

We had almost the exact same truck at our furniture store. '75 F100 I6 automatic. Vinyl seats, rubber floor, am radio, no A/C. You could fit an entire bedroom suite in it and almost make it up a hill.

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Unfortunately I made the mistake of trading my '77 on a 1980 Bronco with the 300 six and 4-speed. What a pathetic drivetrain. It might have been good in a farm truck but it wasn't worth a sh!t in that Bronco. I never would have guessed they would put a one-barrel carb on a 300 cu in engine. With the 4-speed granny gear it had great off-road capability but was absolutely miserable on the highway. It had zero acceleration at anything over 50 mph and you could not downshift to 3rd gear to pass because the anemic six had nothing over about 3000 rpm. I yanked that thing out at about 16k miles and replaced it with a warmed up 351C. Totally transformed that truck into something I actually enjoyed driving, even with the 4-speed. I kept it for over ten years until the body started rusting away.

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As much fleet/commercial business as Ford does w/this truck, you probably won't see that happen until it's mandated by the feds.

 

Also, isn't Lariat pretty much the lowest trim for which you have a decent set of options (essentially what XLT was 20 years ago?)

Actually the only items I couldn't get on the XLT was power folding mirrors, leather and led lights.

 

Just disappointing when you can get compact cars with led and the base Silverado with HID and led and the XLT has halogens on $50,000 truck.

 

Guess I'll wait for a used one.

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The specialists who told me that (10 years ago) have all retired. DI works well when you can run lean, which you can not do in the US !

Smaller injectors enable better control of mixture strength, I think this what Ford is seeking

with the added complexity of PDFI - the net gains outweigh the negatives of added cost.

 

......as it is with everything else that has been added in the past and will be in the future.

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RWD configuration 3.5 and 3.7 have an external water pump. FWD has it behind front cover and timing chain driven. I was told because it wouldn't fit. Water pumps that leak should mostly leak out the weep holes instead of inside the engine. However, I have seen on FWD it happen when the pump bearing is shot and coolant enters the crankcase.

 

 

So that is why the 3.5 in FWD is internal, because it won't fit externally?

 

I mod 2 other forums and one of them is the Explorer forum. There have been many members who have had the coolant leak internally and taking out their engines (all outside of warranty). Also ridiculous that you essentially have to pull the motor on the vehicles to change the pump with a cost of $1,800-$2,000 for a $70 water pump and worst case $7,000 engines going in. Have read about this happening in the flex, mks and edge as well.

 

Frankly I can't believe Ford would do this with a water pump and one reason I'm getting rid of my Explorer before my ESP is up.

 

Do either the 2.7 or 2.0 ecoboost have an external? Just want to make sure this is a limited feature of the FWD 3.5.

 

Sorry to go a little off topic but this is the first I've heard of the reasoning on why it was done this way.

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So that is why the 3.5 in FWD is internal, because it won't fit externally?

 

I mod 2 other forums and one of them is the Explorer forum. There have been many members who have had the coolant leak internally and taking out their engines (all outside of warranty). Also ridiculous that you essentially have to pull the motor on the vehicles to change the pump with a cost of $1,800-$2,000 for a $70 water pump and worst case $7,000 engines going in. Have read about this happening in the flex, mks and edge as well.

 

Frankly I can't believe Ford would do this with a water pump and one reason I'm getting rid of my Explorer before my ESP is up.

 

Do either the 2.7 or 2.0 ecoboost have an external? Just want to make sure this is a limited feature of the FWD 3.5.

 

Sorry to go a little off topic but this is the first I've heard of the reasoning on why it was done this way.

Yes it's because it will not fit in fwd applications. You don't have to take the engine out. You have to remove the front timing cover. Some prefer to drop the engine. Actually that platform, the engine/trans assembly comes out easily. Several engines from different manufacturers have done the same with water pump over the years. I am not a huge fan of the design, but it doesn't bother me because I personally haven't seen that many failures. Not to mention a used 3.5 is cheap if it does grenade.

 

http://www.tomorrowstechnician.com/servicing-timing-chain-driven-water-pumps/

 

I believe all the Nano engine family have external water pumps.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Saw this on an older Autoblog page from the beginning of the NAIAS:

 

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/01/08/2018-ford-f-150-power-stroke-details/#slide-4342805

 

 

 

 

And then there's the 5.0-liter V8, which is switching to spray-bore cylinder liners like those used on the Mustang's 5.0-liter; that will reduce weight and along with other efficiency improvements and the 10-speed automatic will lead to undisclosed power and efficiency improvements.

 

Me thinks someone got a bit confused.

 

I'm guessing this is what the wizz was referring to earlier in this thread.

 

I know, old news. It's Sunday and I'm bored. :)

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Yeah, the PTAW was developed to achieve a reliable 3.7" bore on the Shelbys (5.8 and 5.2)

We've heard nothing about Ford replacing the thin wall liners in regular 5.0 Coyote production.

 

Not sure that was the only reason for PTWA but it should be interesting to see where they use it next.

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Not sure that was the only reason for PTWA but it should be interesting to see where they use it next.

Just over a year ago, Ford had a release that mentioned PTAW being used to

reclaim engines that would be otherwise scrapped....LINK

 

I didn't realize that Ford was that big into re-manufacturing engines, maybe Europe is more that way..

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