Pinto'77 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2015/11/09/plant-details-behind-fords-9-billion-spending-spree/75467028/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Chicago Assembly Plant: $900 million investment to build the new Ford Explorer and Police SUV Interceptor. The plant will continue to make the existing Taurus with no plans to make the all-new version that was introduced for the China market. Dearborn Truck: $250 million investment to continue to make the F-150 as well as the new F-150 Raptor performance pickup. Flat Rock Assembly: $400 million investment to continue making the Ford Mustang and add production of the all-new Lincoln Continental full-size sedan. The Ford Fusion mid-size sedan continues through its current product lifecycle as needed to augment assembly in Mexico but it does not appear that the next-generation will need additional capacity in Flat Rock. Kansas City Assembly: $200 million investment to continue making the F-150 pickup and Ford Transit full-size commercial van. Kentucky Truck: $600 million investment to make the next-generation Super Duty pickup with an aluminum body as well as the Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator which are also expected to go aluminum. Ford will in-source work on the instrument panel, cooling module and part of the rear doors. Louisville Assembly: $700 million investment to make the all-new 2017 Escape. The current Lincoln MKC will move elsewhere to provide more capacity for the hot-selling Escape. Ohio Assembly: $250 million investment to continue making medium-duty trucks and E-Series cutaway and stripped chassis but a new unnamed product will be added. Dearborn Engine: $50 million investment to make an upgraded 2-liter four-cylinder engine. Cleveland Engine: $150 million investment to upgrade the 3.7-liter and 3,5-liter V6 engines and continue to make the 2-liter and 2.3-liter four-cylinder engines. Lima Engine: $250 million investment to upgrade the 3.5-liter and 2.7-liter engines and build two new V6 engines. One is expected to be the new 3-liter V6 shown in the Lincoln Continental concept. Romeo Engine: $150 million investment to continue to make upgraded versions of the 5.2-liter and 6.2-liter engines and also add a new displacement for the new Super Duty pickups. The plant will also continue to make connecting rods for the 5-liter V8 engine block and add a head machining module. Woodhaven Forging: will continue to make the same forgings. Livonia Transmission: $1.8 billion investment to continue current transmissions and add three new ones: likely some of the 9- and 10-speed transmissions currently in development. The plant will also add gear machining. Sharonville Transmission: $900 million investment to keep making current transmissions and do gear machining while adding a new transmission family and gear machining for the two new multi-gear transmissions. Van Dyke Transmission: $650 million investment to add three new transmissions while continuing to make the current transmissions. Rawsonville: $50 million investment to continue to make batteries for electric vehicles as well as other components. Sterling Axle: $400 million investment to make new axles for the Ford Explorer, Expedition and Lincoln Navigator while continuing to make current axles. Buffalo Stamping: $30 million investment to make stampings for the Ford Edge, Expedition and Super Duty as well as the Lincoln MKX and Navigator. Chicago Stamping: $200 million investment to make stampings for the new Explorer, a new product and continue existing work. Dearborn Stamping/Dearborn Diversified: $80 million investment for a new press line, hydroform press and two machining lines as Ford uses more aluminum in future vehicles. Stamping and hydroforming work continues for the F-150 and new Super Duty pickups. Woodhaven hot metal forming plant: $300 million investment for five new metal-forming lines and new laser cells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 So basically only the Mustang and Contiental will be the only passenger cars built in the USA, when the Taurus dies off...and still no RWD sedan either :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 jumped out at me ..."upgraded 5.2....." huh?....that's the flatplane...they are upgrading it?.....hmmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 jumped out at me ..."upgraded 5.2....." huh?....that's the flatplane...they are upgrading it?.....hmmmmm. I thought that was built in Windsor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 MKC to Canada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 MKC to Canada? No. Nothing they build there is on the C platform. I do not think they will add a third platform to that plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Isn't there a "secret plant" that will build new Panthers, Rangers, Econolines, Probes, and any Station Wagons? JK, "...only passenger cars built in the USA?" Oh, btw, to many buyers, a CUV/SUV is a "car". I wont buy one, but they bring in profits, can't doubt that. We will never, ever see any new "Global RWD Panther/Falcon" ever again. "Wake up and smell the coffee." This tidbit was missed above: "Michigan Assembly: $700 million investment with a new product to be added in 2018, expected to be the Ford Ranger, followed by the revival of the Ford Bronco SUV by 2020. The stamping plant will continue to support the Ford Focus and C-Max families of vehicles until they are moved elsewhere in 2018." Edited November 9, 2015 by 630land 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgts Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 So basically only the Mustang and Contiental will be the only passenger cars built in the USA, when the Taurus dies off...and still no RWD sedan either :p Because a certain products isn't mentioned don't mean nothing is on the table especially when competitors are looking at your agreement. However Ford could very well get-out the mainstream, fullsize sedan market, have Explorer carry the fleet/police market and fullsize buyers go to the Contenental. Im glad people can put the "Chinese Taurus is coming here" bit to rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I see movement of Taurus/Police Interceptor going to Oakville as new (Chinese) Taurus is CD4 based. New Edge and MKX are also CD4 based. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Because a certain products isn't mentioned don't mean nothing is on the table especially when competitors are looking at your agreement. Here's the problem with that theory though. The 2011 agreement, though still vague, was still more specific than what the current TA is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I see movement of Taurus/Police Interceptor going to Oakville as new (Chinese) Taurus is CD4 based. New Edge and MKX are also CD4 based. Not holding my breath, the CAW contract runs out next year and I think Oakville is pretty much sole source for the Edge worldwide outside of China 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I see movement of Taurus/Police Interceptor going to Oakville as new (Chinese) Taurus is CD4 based. New Edge and MKX are also CD4 based. I don't think so, not with oakville building every Edge sold worldwide minus China. FRAP still makes the most sense for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03 LS Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I see movement of Taurus/Police Interceptor going to Oakville as new (Chinese) Taurus is CD4 based. New Edge and MKX are also CD4 based. I see the PI sedan follow the Explorer/PIU, aka CD6. Whatever wheels drive the Utes, that's what PI will get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) I see the PI sedan follow the Explorer/PIU, aka CD6. Whatever wheels drive the Utes, that's what PI will get. Ford is already limiting Taurus production becuase of the Explorer now Do have to say it is intresting that Ford thinks Flat rock will be busy with just the Mustang and Contiental...both products that will be lucky to sell 150-175k units combined Edited November 9, 2015 by silvrsvt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Biker shared this before: http://uaw.org/app/uploads/2015/11/FINAL-FORD-HOURLY-11-9-15-1229p-FINAL-with-numbers-p24-headings-page-6-charts-p25.pdf Chicago Assembly $900 million investment • All-new Explorer • All-new Police SUV Interceptor • New product to be added • Taurus will continue through its product lifecycle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Ford is already limiting Taurus production becuase of the Explorer now Do have to say it is intresting that Ford thinks Flat rock will be busy with just the Mustang and Contiental...both products that will be lucky to sell 150-175k units combined In North America, yes. Both are built at FRAP for the whole world, China included. That's easily 200k+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I snipped out the details from the PDF so we can draw our own conclusions States new product for Chicago to be added Another interesting thing....all new Explorer Axle....RWD CD6 confirmed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Another interesting thing....all new Explorer Axle....RWD CD6 confirmed? Uh oh, now you've done it. The pieces are falling into place. ::runsfordoor:: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 And the product TBA at Chicago isn't Taurus... think about it, guys. Chicago will be building 3 utility variants that share a platform... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgts Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 And the product TBA at Chicago isn't Taurus... think about it, guys. Chicago will be building 3 utility variants that share a platform... But it building 3 different vehicles on the same platform now. Why they have to limit themselves to make only SUVs when an all-new platform can accommodate a sedan?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 But it building 3 different vehicles on the same platform now. Why they have to limit themselves to make only SUVs when an all-new platform can accommodate a sedan?. Because the market demands a utility, not a sedan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 But it building 3 different vehicles on the same platform now. Why they have to limit themselves to make only SUVs when an all-new platform can accommodate a sedan?. I'm saying that the 3rd product discussed as going to Chicago, in addition to Explorer and PIU, is a utility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustyw85 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Lincoln will get a version of the Explorer built in Chicago. Probably revive the Aviator name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 My guess is that product for Chicago is the Aviator. Fullsize sedans are on the way out, Chevy is seriously considering dropping the Impala. My neighbor has had Impalas ever since we moved next door 10 years ago, but she recently traded her latest one in on an Equinox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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