jpd80 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 And some of GM's engineers would be saying to PR, "Hey guys, you know we're going to aluminum too.." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe771476 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 According to latest sales figures, Chevy Silverado is gaining on F150. Here in CT, I've seen more new Chevies than F150's. I've seen a hundred new Transits and only 2 F150's. Something is terribly wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 F150 hasn't recovered from the factory rebuilds yet. Nothing to worry about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 According to latest sales figures, Chevy Silverado is gaining on F150. Here in CT, I've seen more new Chevies than F150's. I've seen a hundred new Transits and only 2 F150's. Something is terribly wrong. Silverado is also in its second year. F-150 isn't even a year old yet Nothing terribly unusual here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 According to latest sales figures, Chevy Silverado is gaining on F150. Here in CT, I've seen more new Chevies than F150's. I've seen a hundred new Transits and only 2 F150's. Something is terribly wrong. Plus Chevy has gone back to heavy discounts to prop up their sales. Ford hasn't had to do that with the new F150, yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Brand loyalty across the US is not uniform, so if you're seeing more Silverados in your area, chances are that dealers have been working hard attracting byers with incentives and leases, something Ford doesn't need to do with the new F150 until dealer volumes build up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I'm seeing new F150s everywhere here. Even in my little small town, where you don't normally see new vehicles for a year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) Heard a Chevy truck add on the radio yesterday. It made a claim that "while some manufacturers are making their truck FRAMES out of aluminum, Chevys are made of high strength American steel!" Since we all know the F150 most definitely has a steel frame, I wonder what truck GM is talking about in that add. There must be something out there with an aluminum frame bracket or something. As it is I think Ford almost has a case against them for false advertising since the F150s frame is steel. Edited July 13, 2015 by Sevensecondsuv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I'm seeing new F150s everywhere here. Even in my little small town, where you don't normally see new vehicles for a year or so. Same here. Of course, unlike the Fords, the "new" Chebbies look so much like the "old" Chebbies it's hard to tell how many are "new" Chebbies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Same here. Of course, unlike the Fords, the "new" Chebbies look so much like the "old" Chebbies it's hard to tell how many are "new" Chebbies. Funny you say that. I was driving with someone the other day and mentioned how when driving on the road I can hardly tell the new F-150 from the old. It took me actually seeing the tailgate trim plate to figure it out (I was next to it and could not see the front). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Funny you say that. I was driving with someone the other day and mentioned how when driving on the road I can hardly tell the new F-150 from the old. It took me actually seeing the tailgate trim plate to figure it out (I was next to it and could not see the front). Well, in fairness, there really isn't that much you can change on the rear end to make it look completely different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Funny you say that. I was driving with someone the other day and mentioned how when driving on the road I can hardly tell the new F-150 from the old. It took me actually seeing the tailgate trim plate to figure it out (I was next to it and could not see the front). Actually, I can spot the new F150 instantly, no matter the angle. Of course, I'm a certified Ford truck nut, so that helps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Well, in fairness, there really isn't that much you can change on the rear end to make it look completely different. I occasionally mistake the new Yota for an F150 from the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Finally an article that know what it's talking about.. they must be reading the comments here.. http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/07/13/is-gm-getting-desperate-with-its-new-ford-bashing.aspx?source=eogyholnk0000001 But here's the thing: GM -- and its dealers -- know that the game is about to change in a big way. Why GM's dealers are worried about Ford nowFord hasn't been losing ground in the sales war because its new truck is a loser. It has been losing ground because of supply issues. In order to manufacture the new aluminum-bodied F-150, Ford had to make extensive changes at its two pickup factories. The F-Series is America's best-selling vehicle line. Normally, both of those factories run around the clock to keep up with demand. But each needed to be shut down for 12 weeksin order to install and test the new tooling needed to make the new trucks. The upshot is that Ford has had tight supplies of pickups for months. As a result, it has been prioritizing retail sales, allowing GM room to steal some of Ford's lucrative commercial-fleet business. But now both factories are up and running at full speed. In just a few more weeks, Ford's dealers will have full inventories -- and Ford will get serious about retaking the ground it has lost to GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 You know it's bad when the Motley Fool is the voice of reason. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I think the crowng from the GM camp will fade as F150 sales increase and push combined F Series sales higher as GM and FCA truck sales fade going into winter..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 "Fleet" and "lucrative" in the same breath. That says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Well, in fairness, there really isn't that much you can change on the rear end to make it look completely different. No, I didn't know from the side of the truck if it was the new one or not, I had to wait to see the tailgate and that mongo Platinum applique to figure out it was the new gen and not the old one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 No, I didn't know from the side of the truck if it was the new one or not, I had to wait to see the tailgate and that mongo Platinum applique to figure out it was the new gen and not the old one. The side view (in person) looks totally different to me. The 2015 looks more like a Ram to me for some reason. Can't really explain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 No, I didn't know from the side of the truck if it was the new one or not, I had to wait to see the tailgate and that mongo Platinum applique to figure out it was the new gen and not the old one. Ah, I see. Can't help you there, then! I don't have that issue! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave91gt Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I would like to see Ford get more aggressive with their marketing. Not saying a direct competitor attack, but more real world commercials instead of the cartoonish ones. For example, a cool commercial would be an F150 pulling a huge fifth wheel up a steep mountain passing "slower" traffic. In the same commercial, show the same truck unloaded getting the "V6" mileage they tout. Men are visual creatures. We like to see what we are purchasing in action. They brag about towing and fuel mileage, so put it on a real commercial. They have the towing video's showing them killing the competition. Why not spin that into a real life commercial? Bragging about the aluminum without bashing steel would be a main point- lighter weight allows higher tow ratings, better acceleration, etc. From my perspective, GM and RAM are throwing the kitchen sink at F series sales right now while Ford is down. I just hope Ford truly does recover and keeps their crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I think the Denis Leary commercials (and Mike Rowe in the past) were a lot more effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 ...an F150 pulling a huge fifth wheel up a steep mountain passing "slower" traffic. As long as they don't do what GM did and show one of their trucks pulling a load of tin horns. It looks impressive 'til you realize that the trailer weighs more than the load and that my F150 could pull it just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Those 700lb gorilla/steel cage commercials throughout the All-Star game last night were right on target for the average guy who is on the fence about materials. Can't find link on Youtube but I presume some of you saw them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 They were the first post of this thread haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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