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The "Thrill Is Gone"-The Collapse Of Obama-mania


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#421 OFFLINE   Langston Hughes

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 05:37 AM

 

Obama now faces the consequences for his 5 year campaign of dismantling the image of a powerful and resolute United States. And Putin is calling Obama's hand.
 
Imagine the outcome if Putin was Khrushchev and Obama was Kennedy.
 
We'd have nukes aimed at us from Cuba. And Europe would still be divided, the Berlin Wall would still be standing and we'd have continued provocative overflights by soviet bombers.
 
Just like the good old days.
 
 
Does anyone think our "community organizer" is any threat to the KGB Lieutenant Colonel?
 Putin knows Obama's "All hat, no cattle."

Now the mistake of the liberals love of Obama's passivism is obliterated by his weakness.
 
How does he respond to Putin? With threats of  a multinational, "Stern warning".
 
No, not that. More like this....... 
 
And Putin calls his bluff.
 
Peace through strength beats pleas for peace on quivering knees.
 
Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared
 
Russia Executes De Facto Takeover of Crimea Region
 

 

Obama Skips National Security Team Meeting on Russia, Ukraine

 

 

Where did you steal that from? 

 

Seems to me that I saw this same scenario play out before. Do you have any idea where that might be and when it was? Oh yeah, it was Georgia and under president Bush. Yes, the man who saw Putin's soul issued these stern warnings...

 

"We strongly condemn the bombing outside South Ossetia," President Bush said in a Rose Garden speech Monday afternoon.

 

 

Yeah, Ole Vlad's doing this in the Ukraine because of Obama. 

 

I understand that you don't like Obama or his policies but you should understand that Putin is going to do what he wants because he's a bit how you say, mad with power. it has nothing to do with Obama, or fiver years of blah blah blah because the reality is that he started consolidating power and looking to do this more than five years ago. I'd like to think that you got snowed by bush's quote about Putin's soul, but it seems obvious that you are just being your less than honest self again. 

 

If anything Obama has shown a willingness to engage our enemies just as aggressively as Bush ever did, and actually engaging our enemies, unlike bush who attacked a non threat and made us the laughing stock of the world by invading Iraq. Again you may not like him, but he has taken a free hand with surgical military and drone strikes more so than the previous president all while maintaining a less vocally aggressive posture. I thought they called that something like "talk quietly but carry a big stick." 


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#422 OFFLINE   fmccap

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 05:55 AM

It's funny we say this after how our foreign policy works. Pretty much the same as we do.

 

http://www.nbcnews.c...invasion-n42251

 

 

Secretary of State John Kerry on Saturday condemned Russia’s “invasion and occupation of Ukrainian territory” and warned that its relations with the U.S. were at risk.



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Posted 02 March 2014 - 07:21 AM

 

Where did you steal that from? 

 

Seems to me that I saw this same scenario play out before. Do you have any idea where that might be and when it was? Oh yeah, it was Georgia and under president Bush. Yes, the man who saw Putin's soul issued these stern warnings...

 

 

Yeah, Ole Vlad's doing this in the Ukraine because of Obama. 

 

I understand that you don't like Obama or his policies but you should understand that Putin is going to do what he wants because he's a bit how you say, mad with power. it has nothing to do with Obama, or fiver years of blah blah blah because the reality is that he started consolidating power and looking to do this more than five years ago. I'd like to think that you got snowed by bush's quote about Putin's soul, but it seems obvious that you are just being your less than honest self again. 

 

If anything Obama has shown a willingness to engage our enemies just as aggressively as Bush ever did, and actually engaging our enemies, unlike bush who attacked a non threat and made us the laughing stock of the world by invading Iraq. Again you may not like him, but he has taken a free hand with surgical military and drone strikes more so than the previous president all while maintaining a less vocally aggressive posture. I thought they called that something like "talk quietly but carry a big stick." 

Are you accusing me of plagiarism? If so, wouldn't you think I'd steal a better worded and constructed comment. Rather, it was developed point by point after multiple edits that developed my take on the inept response of the administration.

 

 

BTW, Obama's boots need licking. He certainly isn't going to lick anyone with his leadership and decisive actions.

 

 

 

If anything, Obama has shown a willingness to make sure the image of the US is one of a country of lip service and paperwork, posturing, photo-ops, pandering, kowtowing, apologizing, limp wrists, dis-arming national security, bureaucratic gamesmanship and spinelessness.

 

 

I don't see Putin shaking in his high boots in fear Obama will do ANYTHING to stop him except talk about asking him to please leave Ukraine.


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Posted 02 March 2014 - 08:27 AM

Are you accusing me of plagiarism? If so, wouldn't you think I'd steal a better worded and constructed comment. Rather, it was developed point by point after multiple edits that developed my take on the inept response of the administration.

 

BTW, Obama's boots need licking. He certainly isn't going to lick anyone with his leadership and decisive actions.

 

If anything, Obama has shown a willingness to make sure the image of the US is one of a country of lip service and paperwork, posturing, photo-ops, pandering, kowtowing, apologizing, limp wrists, dis-arming national security, bureaucratic gamesmanship and spinelessness.

 

I don't see Putin shaking in his high boots in fear Obama will do ANYTHING to stop him except talk about asking him to please leave Ukraine.

 

No, I wouldn't think so. I thought it looked just like the type of thing you'd find on an email and think is cute.  If you must insist that it was your own work, then i'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but only because i thought you could put something better together rather than that bag of flaming dogshit. 

 

How do you know they need licking, you been down there looking at them? 

 

The only one kowtowing to Putin was Bush and his looking into his soul comments. Obama has taken a harder line on the activities of Russia then his predecessor ever did and the relationship has been much more combative. Unfortunately, the years under his predecessor were ones where Putin's power was not challenged and now after all those years, he is willing to exert it full extent. 

 

I don't see Putin shaking in his boots at all to anyone. Your being really ignorant if you think he would be scared of anyone. 

 

And given the way that conservatives responded to Obama's Syrian plans, it's no wonder that he wouldn't be scared. Instead of standing behind Obama and pushing harder on a Russian proxy, conservatives cut the nuts off our foreign policy for political points. If anyone made the US look weak to Russia it certainly was the conservatives in that episode. They made us look weak to a Russian vassal state and you want to blame Obama because Putin knows that they might do it again. 


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Posted 02 March 2014 - 09:05 PM

I stole this from another pages comment section.

 

What do you get when America has a "leader" who follows the Jimmy Carter doctrine of weakness and appeasement? A "leader" who refuses to take a stand, who "votes present" during world crisis, who dramatically issues empty threats and "red lines" that everyone knows he will shrink away from? When America has a weak, pompous coward who denigrates and sneers at the real men who are willing to go in harm's way to protect others, who is intent upon slashing our military and destroying the massive deterrent that has kept us relatively safe....How do real leaders react?

By spanking our feckless "leader" like a little bitch. By further reinforcing the world's view of him as a completely ineffective, incompetent, and pathetically weak coward.

Syria was just the beginning. The Ukraine is the next humiliation. This is like watching an evil version of Reagan humiliate that sad little peanut farmer.....Over and over.

Hell, I couldn't stand little Bushy. He grabbed disgusting amounts of power for the Executive Branch, and weakened the Constitution. But, at least the rest of the world respected or feared him.

Well, America.....You elected a dope smoking community organizer from shithole Chicago....and pitted him against the former head of the KGB.

Congratulations. You idiots managed to buy into promises of "free" health care, "fairness", and an arrogant ass who told you that successful people were somehow wrong because they had achieved more than you.

Your weakness has now translated into the world sneering at us....and licking their chops while laughing about how weak we are.

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 09:14 PM

 

No, I wouldn't think so. I thought it looked just like the type of thing you'd find on an email and think is cute.  If you must insist that it was your own work, then i'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but only because i thought you could put something better together rather than that bag of flaming dogshit. 

 

How do you know they need licking, you been down there looking at them? 

 

The only one kowtowing to Putin was Bush and his looking into his soul comments. Obama has taken a harder line on the activities of Russia then his predecessor ever did and the relationship has been much more combative. Unfortunately, the years under his predecessor were ones where Putin's power was not challenged and now after all those years, he is willing to exert it full extent. 

 

I don't see Putin shaking in his boots at all to anyone. Your being really ignorant if you think he would be scared of anyone. 

 

And given the way that conservatives responded to Obama's Syrian plans, it's no wonder that he wouldn't be scared. Instead of standing behind Obama and pushing harder on a Russian proxy, conservatives cut the nuts off our foreign policy for political points. If anyone made the US look weak to Russia it certainly was the conservatives in that episode. They made us look weak to a Russian vassal state and you want to blame Obama because Putin knows that they might do it again. 

Obama's successes are due to his domination over the conservatives and his failures are due to his predecessor and the interference of the conservatives?

 

Got it. You are one of those Obamazombies.


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but you value his life more than your own family. Tell them that tonight when you tuck them into bed.  ©2013-firedmotorcompany

 

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 12:30 AM

Worth listening to:

 

Grab a Snack, Sit Back and Watch Judge Jeanine Obliterate Obama's Foreign Policy Like Only She Can

 


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 01:04 AM

Obama's successes are due to his domination over the conservatives and his failures are due to his predecessor and the interference of the conservatives?

 

Got it. You are one of those Obamazombies.

 

That's not what i said and you are aware of that, but your intellectual dishonesty once again has free reign.  


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 03:33 AM

 

That's not what i said and you are aware of that, but your intellectual dishonesty once again has free reign.  

It was a generalization of your historical positions, not directly citing the previous comment.

 

Try to keep up.


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I am sure you believe the president deserves a highly trained and well armed security force at all times......
but you value his life more than your own family. Tell them that tonight when you tuck them into bed.  ©2013-firedmotorcompany

 

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#430 OFFLINE   Langston Hughes

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 09:03 AM

It was a generalization of your historical positions, not directly citing the previous comment.

 

Try to keep up.

 

I'm sorry but you quoted a specific post and then suggest it's a generalization. I'm wondering given your continual seemingly intentional misrepresentations of what i post if your just making up an excuse or you just don't have any better idea of how to do that in a way that is understandable.  


"Whenever the government provides opportunities and privileges for white people and rich people they call it ‘subsidies.’ When they do it for Negro and poor people they call it ‘welfare.’ The fact is that everybody in this country lives on welfare. Suburbia was built with federally subsidized credit. And highways that take our white brothers out to the suburbs were built with federally subsidized money to the tune of ninety percent. Everybody is on welfare in this country. The problem is that we all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free enterprise capitalism for the poor. That’s the problem." - MLK jr.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 02:15 PM

 
I'm sorry but you quoted a specific post and then suggest it's a generalization. I'm wondering given your continual seemingly intentional misrepresentations of what i post if your just making up an excuse or you just don't have any better idea of how to do that in a way that is understandable.  


Either you did say or you have said as much.

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Let it be known. My child's, my family's and my own life is equally precious as the president's and deserves equal rights of protection. Can you say the same for your child or yourself? Or do you have a "king"? ©2013-firedmotorcompany

All gun grabbers take note: Your child looked at you and believed you when you said you loved them and would protect them. ©2013-firedmotorcompany

I am sure you believe the president deserves a highly trained and well armed security force at all times......
but you value his life more than your own family. Tell them that tonight when you tuck them into bed.  ©2013-firedmotorcompany

 

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 12:22 AM

Either you did say or you have said as much.

 

You may have interpreted what i said previous to mean such, albeit in error, but you quoted a particular post so one would expect that your mentioning the post, not going all off the reservation on a tangent. 


"Whenever the government provides opportunities and privileges for white people and rich people they call it ‘subsidies.’ When they do it for Negro and poor people they call it ‘welfare.’ The fact is that everybody in this country lives on welfare. Suburbia was built with federally subsidized credit. And highways that take our white brothers out to the suburbs were built with federally subsidized money to the tune of ninety percent. Everybody is on welfare in this country. The problem is that we all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free enterprise capitalism for the poor. That’s the problem." - MLK jr.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 06 March 2014 - 06:25 PM

Obama was a classic marketing ploy of over promise and under deliver.








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