the_spaniard Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 This is always the come back from liberals.....there's a reason that Fox is so successful and conservative talk radio leads all others....oh and honey boo boo is not the #1 show on cable...maybe it's #1 with you...you're just in denial... And conservatives love to dismiss that. So Toyota IS the best car, right? There are certainly reasons for that too. I used to watch Fox for the amusement periodically. It's not my demographic though, as 65 is the age of the average viewer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Democracy, as a form of government, is dangerous and is the wolves vs. the sheep. Which is fine as long as you're a wolf and outnumber the sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_spaniard Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Pay a visit to just about any university in the country and then try selling that shit. Our universities are polluted with flat out communist marxist or at the very least hardcore socialist professors who not only don't trust democracy, they despise it. In true liberal fashion they proclaim that they are the vanguard of freedom and equality when in reality they are anything but. This, however, is not surprising. Castro proclaimed himself a liberator and a believer in democratic rule. Chavez did the same as did Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, even Hitler. Liberals are no different. They run around and preach about how all they want is equality for the little guy and how they are going to make everything fair and equal for everyone. They want nothing of the sort. The real enemy of the masses is the two faces of liberalism, not Fox news. It is true that college professors are dominantly liberal. It has not been proven that students become more liberal at college or reject their religious upbringings more than those that do not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 And conservatives love to dismiss that. So Toyota IS the best car, right? There are certainly reasons for that too. I used to watch Fox for the amusement periodically. It's not my demographic though, as 65 is the age of the average viewer. Never owned a toyota..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_spaniard Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Never owned a toyota..... Shame. They make some great products. But obviously you own an inferior product because the Camry sells the most. The majority can't be wrong. Edited February 6, 2014 by the_spaniard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 Shame. They make some great products. But obviously you own an inferior product because the Camry sells the most. The majority can't be wrong. Not necessarily. Betamax and Apple computers are the best, just not the most popular. The mob can be wrong. That's why mob rule isn't the best idea. If one man is right but everyone else disagrees, it doesn't make them right because there's more of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal50 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 It is true that college professors are dominantly liberal. It has not been proven that students become more liberal at college or reject their religious upbringings more than those that do not. People are influenced by their environment, to what extent is debatable and varies person to person. A young adult attending 4 years of college "grows up" and their interaction day to day will have an influence on them. An person coming off a 4 year prison stint also have some influence from their environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Shame. They make some great products. But obviously you own an inferior product because the Camry sells the most. The majority can't be wrong. Not true...I own a F-Series..the best selling vehicle in America......and your analogy is a miss....nice try... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Democracy, as a form of government, is dangerous and is the wolves vs. the sheep. Which is fine as long as you're a wolf and outnumber the sheep. But, the popularity and ratings of tv program is apples to oranges compared to democracy in government. 5 out of 6 want to watch a particular program on the only tv available in the house? That's just practical. 5 out of 6 want to rape the 6th? Not quite the same. Try again. No, you should try again. Your rape analogy was stupid as shit. My contention that popularity is not always judge of what's best whether it's elections or TV news is not apples and oranges and you rape shit is just disgusting. Can't you just talk like a normal human without the self aggrandizing bullshit? I'm talking about popularity contests and your off on rape. Shows where the fuck your head is at. Really, what is wrong with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Not true...I own a F-Series..the best selling vehicle in America......and your analogy is a miss....nice try... Wow, you just proved his point while dismissing it. You are an idiot-savant, with much more emphasis on the idiot part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Wow, you just proved his point while dismissing it. You are an idiot-savant, with much more emphasis on the idiot part. I don't own it because it's #1....could have something to do with being a Ford retiree....have always had Ford trucks...even before they were #1, so try again....but I did get a laugh out of you calling me an idiot...you of all people Are bigoted toward all savants ?... Edited February 6, 2014 by napfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Wow, you just proved his point while dismissing it. You are an idiot-savant, with much more emphasis on the idiot part. So glad you are able to partake in conversations without resorting to personal attacks. Oh wait. Knock it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 As if we needed more conclusive evidence the "shiny" has worn off Obama, we learn that Obama himself is offering to distance himself from the upcoming Senate races. Typically, a popular president has long coattails where glad handing and having a president's arm around a candidate translates to votes. However, it is abundantly clear this president is considered to be a plague by many vulnerable candidates in the upcoming races. And obviously, CNN is more reliable than FoxNews, so there can't be any challenges to the validity of the story. Source: Obama offers to stay away from some Senate races (CNN) -- President Barack Obama has told Senate Democrats that he's willing to stay away from election battles where his presence would not be helpful, a Democratic source said -- an apparent nod to his poll numbers. Obama's comments came when he and former President Bill Clinton attended the Senate Democrats' issues conference at Nationals Park on Wednesday. Sources at the meeting said Obama assured Democrats that maintaining control of the Senate is his top priority this year. "I don't remember him (Obama) saying he wouldn't be offended if he wasn't invited (to help campaign), but he certainly acknowledged how low his numbers are in certain states," a source told CNN. But Obama also noted "they are bad in some states overall," and "that certain people would need him to help in certain parts of those states," that source said. According to a CNN/ORC International poll conducted last weekend, Obama's approval rating stood at 45%, with his disapproval at 50%. Those numbers are slightly better than two months before, when the approval ratings ran at or near all-time lows for the President. But it's still far below where it stood a year ago, at his second inaugural, when his approval rating stood in the low to mid 50s in most polling. With a number of vulnerable Democratic senators up for re-election this year, sources at Wednesday's meeting said Obama vowed to do what he could to support Democratic candidates. The Democratic caucus currently holds a 55-45 majority in the 100-member chamber, but 21 Democratic-controlled seats are up this year as opposed to only 15 Republican seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 So glad you are able to partake in conversations without resorting to personal attacks. Oh wait. Knock it off. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 So glad you are able to partake in conversations without resorting to personal attacks. Oh wait. Knock it off. Look at the bright side, he actually used the words "you are" when he would normally say "Your an idiot!" lol I call that progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_spaniard Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Not necessarily. Betamax and Apple computers are the best, just not the most popular. Betamax was superior technology. Apple is a more user-friendly computer, but that doesn't mean the best. The mob can be wrong. That's why mob rule isn't the best idea. If one man is right but everyone else disagrees, it doesn't make them right because there's more of them. My point exactly. I don't think the Camry is the best car by a long shot. It is a bland appliance with a history of reliability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_spaniard Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) I guess you might want to say 3. You have all the old RINOs like McCain. The public needs to do there homework and see who these people really are. I know that's a far reach but ultimately for the good of all of us it needs to be done. You can't stop someone from endorsing someone. What if Bush, who is hated by the Dems, endorsed Clinton? That wouldn't help either. I'd say since 2007 there are many more people paying attention and it's trending upwards. I don't know about the upward trend. The polls don't reflect it. There are "crazy extremists" in all groups. When Paul Sr. ran both times there were some "let's overthrow the government" crazies backing him. Yes, but those "crazy extremists" helped him get exactly nowhere. And Pauls own views on many things can be seen as extreme. Too extreme for most. That's my point. If you are proposing things that are considered by many to be extremist, it would help your cause to have as much support from both sides of the isle to make your case to the general (non-extremist) public. That bipartisan shit is also garbage. Who are they but independent private organizations? Bi means 2, there is only one Constitution. That kind of view of why many people (myself included) believe that the TP isn't the third party we need. "Screw democrats or RHINO republicans." As I have said before, raw extremism will get the TP (and democrats, republicans, independents, morlocks) nowhere. That's the reason I see for the dwindling support for the group among the people. Extremism is wearing on the American public. The president may not get it, but the republicans seem to be coming around. You don't win the public (the people mentioned in that Constitution) over by being non-compromising extremists. Edited February 7, 2014 by the_spaniard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imawhosure Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Betamax was superior technology. Apple is a more user-friendly computer, but that doesn't mean the best. My point exactly. I don't think the Camry is the best car by a long shot. It is a bland appliance with a history of reliability. It is honestly unfortunate for all Ford employees that everyone did not see the Camry as you did. It is also very unfortunate for Conservatives that politics were not seen the way you did in (not so much 2008.....but 2012 for sure) and will they be seen that way in the future! Camry is a post toasty if anyone is paying attention to the ratings in 2014. So are the progressives. Are you suggesting we pick the best of one, but pick the also ran of the other? For some reason. I didn't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_spaniard Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 People are influenced by their environment, to what extent is debatable and varies person to person. A young adult attending 4 years of college "grows up" and their interaction day to day will have an influence on them. An person coming off a 4 year prison stint also have some influence from their environment. Sure, but data shows that all the "liberal indoctrination" rhetoric is just that. Attending a liberal college and studying under liberal professors does not make people "turn liberal". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_spaniard Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Not true...I own a F-Series..the best selling vehicle in America......and your analogy is a miss....nice try... No, my analogy is spot on. Whether you choose to ignore it to fit your needs is another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 No, my analogy is spot on. Whether you choose to ignore it to fit your needs is another story. Back at you.... No, my analogy is spot on. Whether you choose to ignore it to fit your needs is another story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_spaniard Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) It is honestly unfortunate for all Ford employees that everyone did not see the Camry as you did. It is also very unfortunate for Conservatives that politics were not seen the way you did in (not so much 2008.....but 2012 for sure) and will they be seen that way in the future! Camry is a post toasty if anyone is paying attention to the ratings in 2014. So are the progressives. Are you suggesting we pick the best of one, but pick the also ran of the other? For some reason. I didn't think so. Not at all. Sales, much like reviews in auto ragz tell someone very little. As far as my views on politics, not really sure what you mean. My comments on the TP are based on polling of said TP. Edited February 7, 2014 by the_spaniard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 After seeing this article, I tried to anticipate the response from the Pro-bama fanboyz. What came to mind then was this crudely produced tourist video. The Article...... More bad news for the "thrill up my leg" party. Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval Each result is based on a three-day rolling averageObama approval rating down to 39% And the knee jerk response will be, "Well it's better than Bush's 32%." Which brought to mind this...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 What's the Democrat Senate Candidate's campaign cheer for 2014? "Here comes Obama! Run away! Run away!!!!!" White House's Senate strategy: Keep Obama away The White House and Senate Democrats are preparing an extensive midterm campaign strategy built around one unavoidable fact: Hardly any candidates in the most competitive states want President Barack Obama anywhere near them. POLITICO spoke with nearly every incumbent up for reelection and aspiring Democratic Senate candidates across the country, but only a handful gave an unequivocal “yes” when asked whether they wanted Obama to come campaign with them. “I don’t care to have him campaign for me,” said Alaska Sen. Mark Begich. “I’d rather him come up to see where his policies aren’t working. He’s wrong on ANWR, we’ve had struggles to try to get our permits done down in the southeast for our timber industry, I want to show him how important the military is in Fairbanks.” Obama’s unpopularity could cost Democrats the Senate, but vulnerable incumbents need the full resources of the White House to hang onto the majority. So the president and party leadership are exploring how to deploy Obama and his team in a way that minimizes complications for Democrats in places like Colorado, Georgia or Kentucky where his polls are underwater. The White House also needs to buck the historic trend of the president’s party losing seats in the midterm election of his second term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Sure, but data shows that all the "liberal indoctrination" rhetoric is just that. Attending a liberal college and studying under liberal professors does not make people "turn liberal". Completely anecdotal, but one of my brothers was a pretty staunch conservative before he became a college professor. Now he's quite the opposite. :shrug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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