charley129 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Lima engine is an interview with management but you have to sign up. How about a vote if we have a real local but we don't. Shouldn't Lima haw members be able to vote on team leaders? This would prevent complete disasters like Donna on team 8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Canada Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 In oakville we bid on leader, and seniority rules. A unionized shop should go by seniority. If you vote you get some but kisser with 5 years seniority while some guy with 20 years is stuck on the line. The company should never choose leaders because they will choose a suck hole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charley129 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 Agree 100& Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyuiop Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Most team leaders/quality leaders are now chosen by bids. The one problem with this is if you get a leader who feels empowered to do whatever they want, they will do whatever they can to do as little as possible, even if that means throwing their own team members under the bus. This happens, unfortunately, on an almost daily basis here in Louisville. They then get friendly with the boss to ensure their doing nothing is there to stay. Just how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailfndr Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Not sure if things have changed or not, But at the Flat Rock plant, (before the Ford Logo went up) we choose our own team leaders by vote of the folks in the unit effected. Each October, all team leader positions were voided and a new election was held in every area. This way, if you do get a suckass, you also have the means to elliminate his ignorant ass, and replace him or her with someone else. The plant wa divided by units, of 20-50 or so people. So those voting for a team leader...Knew them, and were the same ones the winner had to deal with on a daily basis. Yes, this violates senority, BUT, its the only real way to weed out the asswipes and ass kissers, and get a quality team leader, that is beholden to the team in order to keep their job. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdrsmooth Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Great Post Mr Canada....We have coordinators and we protect the people senority is the only way to do things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Canada Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 The problem with voteing is it becomes a popularity contest. Working on the line is hard on your body, thats why you need the high seniorty guys off the line so we all don't retire as cripples. Seniority gives everyone a chance to eventually get a good job. If your leader is bad, washrooms and 1st aids ect. can help. The Foreman will not side with a leader who has alot of down time in work group for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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