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didn't quite meet what the consumers where expecting

 

I think this was the big problem with the decision.

 

You can fault the execution of, for instance, the MFT, but the reasoning behind it is sound. The DCT, OTOH, seems to have been rationalized into production. Would not be surprised if the MCE of the Focus introduces a conventional automatic.

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Would not be surprised if the MCE of the Focus introduces a conventional automatic.

 

I dunno about that...I'd think the lost of a MPG or two would be huge to Ford...

 

Lets assume the big issues have been corrected, but what about training or explaining how the transmission works...just because it doesn't work the same as what your used to, doesn't mean its broke.

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Imagine if a refreshed Lincoln MKS was launched using Montego sheet metal.

 

That result would probably be better than the hideous mass that is the current MKS.

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I dunno about that...I'd think the lost of a MPG or two would be huge to Ford...

 

Lets assume the big issues have been corrected, but what about training or explaining how the transmission works...just because it doesn't work the same as what your used to, doesn't mean its broke.

I do not believe that fuel efficiency drove the adoption of the DCT.

 

Further, if you're explaining, you're losing. It is not in our best interests to be perpetually catered to, but that's how it is and that's what we expect.

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That result would probably be better than the hideous mass that is the current MKS.

 

I wouldn't go that far...

 

Conservatively handsome:

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"Professional Grade" cartoon:

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And just for good measure:

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That result would probably be better than the hideous mass that is the current MKS.

 

:hysterical:

 

Not quite.

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Acadia doesn't bother me. I think it's one of the more handsome large CUVs out there and somewhat conservative in it's appearance in comparison to some of the other offerings out there.

 

You want cartoon?

 

Bleech!

 

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I find all the Lambdas to be a hot mess at best and absolutely nasty at worst, yet they sell like they come with free BJs. Of course, I think the Flex looks dynamite and it, well, doesn't. The American market, folks, one could go insane trying to figure it out.

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1300+ Interceptors versus 325 Caprices. Yep, that RWD is really making all the difference :hysterical2:

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1300+ Interceptors versus 325 Caprices. Yep, that RWD is really making all the difference :hysterical2:

what % are AWD?..................

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Wow, the MKT had a 45% increase and the MKS had a 31% increase. Still better by 2.5% without the Panther Town Car! Some little twit is gonna go bananas! :banmolest:

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Wow, the MKT had a 45% increase and the MKS had a 31% increase. Still better by 2.5% without the Panther Town Car! Some little twit is gonna go bananas! :banmolest:

 

MKT and MKZ you mean?

 

MKS was down 10%.

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Anybody bothered that Ford had the least percentage increase? 7% seems weak compared to GM or Chrysler, par with Hyundai who've been on a streak of late.

I know, I know they are more concerned with per unit profit than absolute sales..............but......

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Top-20 best seller charts for the month and the first half of the year:

 

 

http://www.examiner.com/article/top-20-best-selling-cars-of-june-2012-and-the-first-half-of-2012

 

 

By the way, the VW news release posted earlier is for the wrong year. The Jetta didn't have an especially strong month -- 13k, which is quite good by VW's old standards but not what it's been up to more recently.

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All releases now posted.

 

As to Timm's post, remember that last year Toyota/Honda/Nissan sales were decimated by natural disasters, and Ford was the biggest beneficiary of those sales.

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MKT and MKZ you mean?

 

MKS was down 10%.

 

That was YTD, MKT's monthly was more impressive! That refresh must have really helped!

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All releases now posted.

 

As to Timm's post, remember that last year Toyota/Honda/Nissan sales were decimated by natural disasters, and Ford was the biggest beneficiary of those sales.

 

Indeed. I would say Hyundai would be a pretty good barometer to compare against given the somewhat erratic results from some of the other bigger players over the past 12 months.

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That was YTD, MKT's monthly was more impressive! That refresh must have really helped!

 

Ah, gotcha. I believe last month's MKT's may have included a good handful of fleet deliveries too -- there was that other thread about the MKT hearses...

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All releases now posted.

 

As to Timm's post, remember that last year Toyota/Honda/Nissan sales were decimated by natural disasters, and Ford was the biggest beneficiary of those sales.

 

That's why I didn't mention any Japanese companies. I expected a surge (no pun intended) from them.

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And just for good measure:

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Not the first time GM recycled the tooling from a discontinued car. Remember Saab 9-7x with Oldsmobile Bravada sheet metal? :drop:

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Anybody bothered that Ford had the least percentage increase? 7% seems weak compared to GM or Chrysler, par with Hyundai who've been on a streak of late.

I know, I know they are more concerned with per unit profit than absolute sales..............but......

GM had a 36% increase in fleet deliveries.

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GM had a 36% increase in fleet deliveries.

 

Just read the GM release, retail was up 8%, more inline with reality.

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Wow. I just noticed that Cadillac sales are down 17% for the year. But I thought this is what Lincoln was supposed to be?!?!

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That's why I didn't mention any Japanese companies. I expected a surge (no pun intended) from them.

GM had a 36% increase in fleet deliveries.

 

Also, in 2011 both GM and Chrysler were still suffering from plenty of post-bailout backlash, which has since softened. I'll take Ford's steady gains over the last few years than the roller coaster ups and downs that the other players have been posting.

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