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"Cocheese, on 08 June 2010 - 07:28 AM, said:

Nice try. 10 years of having Dues taken from me. Good thing is, only one more to go. So the good news is, I will no longer have to pay them. The bad news is, because of the CAW's actions, Ford will no longer pay me.

 

 

 

What the union was, is no longer what it is now. The age you claim your source to be proves he is out of touch with what is happening inside the plants.

 

I agree there was a need for a union type organization in the past. But those days have changed, and so has what the union stands for.

 

I for one look forward to the next stage of my life. And coming off my experience with the CAW, you can be sure I will hope like hell to end up somewhere where my cheque isn't ravaged every month by a useless organization like the CAW. I can't wait until my work ethic gets me the promotion, not my seniority"

 

 

Yes he spits on union workers...... Well I spit on SCABS like him.

You certainly do a lot of spitting......I bet your mouth get dry!...better watch that....Oh, how about answering my post...you lmow the one where I ask you to highlight the article that you posted about the Tea Party supporting david duke.....think I'd forget.....?

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You certainly do a lot of spitting......I bet your mouth get dry!...better watch that....Oh, how about answering my post...you lmow the one where I ask you to highlight the article that you posted about the Tea Party supporting david duke.....think I'd forget.....?

 

 

Uh ...I think you are in the wrong thread.....I answered that days ago.......elsewhere.

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First off you can't call palin ignorant and then say Obama just miss spoke. Either they both are ignorant or both just made a mistake. I lean towards the former.

I voted for Obama, however I won't make that mistake again. That being said, I think he will be tough to beat. Remember, a large portion of the voting population pays no taxes and love him. It's a share people can't see where this is headed. If it weren't for the conservative anti union stance I think I would jump on board. I kind of understand there anti public union stance, but they always group OS in with the sicu. Two different animals they group together, but it is what it is.

All I know if they don't control spending we are in deep trouble. There is a huge difference between lending a helping hand when needed and flat out sustaining people who won't help themselves.

 

 

First off you didn't vote for Obama the first time, your defense for idiotic palin gave you away.. Second to vote for any party who fights to give tax breaks to the the companies that ship work overseas is nuts! And if Republicans were really concern about cutting spending they would start with eliminating tax breaks for the wealthy (Which hasn't created or saved one single job)! Bush tax cuts caused the worst recession in the history of this country, yet right wingers won't to continue adding almost a trillion dollars to the backs of the working class, where is the logic...........Conservatives=Fear of everything... Fear is not of God but they continue to call themselves christians..

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First off you didn't vote for Obama the first time, your defense for idiotic palin gave you away.. Second to vote for any party who fights to give tax breaks to the the companies that ship work overseas is nuts! And if Republicans were really concern about cutting spending they would start with eliminating tax breaks for the wealthy (Which hasn't created or saved one single job)! Bush tax cuts caused the worst recession in the history of this country, yet right wingers won't to continue adding almost a trillion dollars to the backs of the working class, where is the logic...........Conservatives=Fear of everything... Fear is not of God but they continue to call themselves christians..

 

 

I sincerely feel sorry for you if this is your total knowledge of economics and politics. There is absolutely no use in debating with you since your view of the world is that you use toilet paper to blow your nose instead of using it to wipe your a**.

 

In any case, I will offer you the same deal I offered his majesty o-ACES, lol. Would you like to bet on the outcome of the 2012 Presidential election; especially since you are sooooooooo confident on how you paint everything?

 

Hey, I am offering you a deal. All you have to do accept the deal publicly, and we will find a way for someone on here to hold the bet for us.

 

Remember, I am a POOR, POOR retired autoworker; and I think it is a travesty that you might try and take advantage of me.

 

NAPFIRST, LONGBALL, FMCCAP, COCHEESE, and a host of others, don't you say 1 damn word-) We are gonna extract some money out of a liberal because they know best, know how Americans think, and also believe they are willing to be socialists-) You gotta help me with this, keep on these liberal heroes, and lets finally make them pay.......through the NOSE, hehehehehehehehehehehe.

 

I will post the picture of me eating the steak, and if you guys can get here, I will buy YOU a steak also. It will just be EPIC, and they will finally be put where they belong, in the garbage can of history!

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First off you didn't vote for Obama the first time, your defense for idiotic palin gave you away.. Second to vote for any party who fights to give tax breaks to the the companies that ship work overseas is nuts! And if Republicans were really concern about cutting spending they would start with eliminating tax breaks for the wealthy (Which hasn't created or saved one single job)! Bush tax cuts caused the worst recession in the history of this country, yet right wingers won't to continue adding almost a trillion dollars to the backs of the working class, where is the logic...........Conservatives=Fear of everything... Fear is not of God but they continue to call themselves christians..

 

Re read my post, I said I would lean towards calling Obama and palin ignorant. I have never been a palin fan. She made some ignorant statements, and he has some ignorant policies. His disdain for the constitution concerns me. Granted he did inherit a lot of the economy woes, but he has not delivered what he promised.

 

Go ahead and raise the taxes on the wealthy business owners. If you think about it logically it won't bother them a bit. Every business has a profit margin to maintain to stay in business. They will just raise the cost of their product or services to offset the increase in taxes. The answer I believe is to cut taxes for all, wealthy, middle class and poor. That should lead to more jobs and more people paying taxes. Either way government spending has to get under control. The government needs a balanced budget. Compare it to your household. Would you try and balance your spending and income or just keep borrowing more money.

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It is too bad we have to put up with lying SCABS on this board.

 

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"Cocheese, on 08 June 2010 - 07:28 AM, said:

Nice try. 10 years of having Dues taken from me. Good thing is, only one more to go. So the good news is, I will no longer have to pay them. The bad news is, because of the CAW's actions, Ford will no longer pay me.

 

 

 

What the union was, is no longer what it is now. The age you claim your source to be proves he is out of touch with what is happening inside the plants.

 

I agree there was a need for a union type organization in the past. But those days have changed, and so has what the union stands for.

 

I for one look forward to the next stage of my life. And coming off my experience with the CAW, you can be sure I will hope like hell to end up somewhere where my cheque isn't ravaged every month by a useless organization like the CAW. I can't wait until my work ethic gets me the promotion, not my seniority"

 

 

Yes he spits on union workers...... Well I spit on SCABS like him.

 

So a "brother" tells you that the retires aren't important, and basically tells you to F off, and you have no comment over it? You don't scream "SCAB"?

 

Why am I not surprised?

 

Since you like taking the time to go back and find my quotes, why don't take the time to go through and give use your opinion on why you disagree with what I have said? And since you claim to have worked at STAP for 37 years, you should be able to provide some examples of things that have happened in that time to support your case.

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So a "brother" tells you that the retires aren't important, and basically tells you to F off, and you have no comment over it? You don't scream "SCAB"?Why am I not surprised? Since you like taking the time to go back and find my quotes, why don't take the time to go through and give use your opinion on why you disagree with what I have said? And since you claim to have worked at STAP for 37 years, you should be able to provide some examples of things that have happened in that time to support your case.

Hey Scab..you are back!

 

Why should I respond to ANY of your questions?

 

You did not respond to mine.

 

And you are a SCAB.

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Re read my post, I said I would lean towards calling Obama and palin ignorant. I have never been a palin fan. She made some ignorant statements, and he has some ignorant policies. His disdain for the constitution concerns me. Granted he did inherit a lot of the economy woes, but he has not delivered what he promised.

 

Go ahead and raise the taxes on the wealthy business owners. If you think about it logically it won't bother them a bit. Every business has a profit margin to maintain to stay in business. They will just raise the cost of their product or services to offset the increase in taxes. The answer I believe is to cut taxes for all, wealthy, middle class and poor. That should lead to more jobs and more people paying taxes. Either way government spending has to get under control. The government needs a balanced budget. Compare it to your household. Would you try and balance your spending and income or just keep borrowing more money.

 

 

You say his disdain for the constitution? But the right wingers are the one trying to rewrite the constitution! (anchor babies, 14th amendment, roe v wade, collective bargaining) you make no sense.. The republiCANTS are the ones that have a disdain for the constitution! What promises have he broke? He said he will kill bin laden and he did it!! Said he would lower taxes for the middle class and he did it! Said he would pass health care law and he did it! So what promise are you talking about. He said he would get us out of the (BUSH) recession and he DID IT! Obama did more in two years than baby bush did in eight. You stop using talking points and research on your own before you spread reich wing lies!

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I sincerely feel sorry for you if this is your total knowledge of economics and politics. There is absolutely no use in debating with you since your view of the world is that you use toilet paper to blow your nose instead of using it to wipe your a**.

 

In any case, I will offer you the same deal I offered his majesty o-ACES, lol. Would you like to bet on the outcome of the 2012 Presidential election; especially since you are sooooooooo confident on how you paint everything?

 

Hey, I am offering you a deal. All you have to do accept the deal publicly, and we will find a way for someone on here to hold the bet for us.

 

Remember, I am a POOR, POOR retired autoworker; and I think it is a travesty that you might try and take advantage of me.

 

NAPFIRST, LONGBALL, FMCCAP, COCHEESE, and a host of others, don't you say 1 damn word-) We are gonna extract some money out of a liberal because they know best, know how Americans think, and also believe they are willing to be socialists-) You gotta help me with this, keep on these liberal heroes, and lets finally make them pay.......through the NOSE, hehehehehehehehehehehe.

 

I will post the picture of me eating the steak, and if you guys can get here, I will buy YOU a steak also. It will just be EPIC, and they will finally be put where they belong, in the garbage can of history!

 

I'M SICK AND TIRED OF INDIVIDUALS WHO MISMANAGED THEIR FINANCES AND WANT TO BLAME IT ON ELECTED OFFICIALS! TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY! YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE NOW MOVE ALONG AND LET SOME YOUNG BLOOD GET A SHOT! 30 PLUS YEARS AND YOU COULDN'T GET EDUCATED TO SAVE MONEY FOR A RAINY DAY. THE COMPANY OWES YOU NOTHING! AND YOU WONDER WHY BUSINESSES CAN'T MAKE IT? ITS NOT THAT TAXES ARE TOO HIGH , ITS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CARE FOR

THEIR EMPLOYEES UNTIL THEY BURIED AND GONE. THATS NOT A COMPANIES RESPONSIBILITY ITS YOURS!! I KNOW MY MESSAGE SOUNDS HARSH, BUT I REALLY BELIEVE OVER HALF OF YOU IN THIS FORUM REALLY NEEDS TO HEAR THIS. IF YOU TOOK ALL THE RISK AND PUT UP YOUR OWN MONEY AND STARTED YOUR OWN BUSINESS YOU PROBABLY WOULD UNDERSTAND WHERE I AM COMING FROM. ACCOUNTABILITY

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You say his disdain for the constitution? But the right wingers are the one trying to rewrite the constitution! (anchor babies, 14th amendment, roe v wade, collective bargaining) you make no sense.. The republiCANTS are the ones that have a disdain for the constitution! What promises have he broke? He said he will kill bin laden and he did it!! Said he would lower taxes for the middle class and he did it! Said he would pass health care law and he did it! So what promise are you talking about. He said he would get us out of the (BUSH) recession and he DID IT! Obama did more in two years than baby bush did in eight. You stop using talking points and research on your own before you spread reich wing lies!

 

Is he or is he not ignoring the war powers resolution with the campaign in Libya? Yes he got Bin Laden and he should be commended for that. The health care bill is part of the spending that I am talking about. Its going to be a huge bill that us tax payers will have to pay for. Yes he extended the middle class tax cuts, but just like Bush, re has not cut down on spending. Now read that last statement carefully. Bush did just as bad as Obama. I will not clear him of responsibility just because he is a republican. Yes the republicans raised the debt ceiling 7 times for Bush. That still doesn't make it right. What about the 14th amendment and Anchor babies do you wish to debate? And since its a debate I feel there is no need to throw insults like republcants or reich wingers. We can have an intelligent debate without name calling. Also you mentioned tax breaks for companies who move jobs overseas. Isn't Jeff Immelt one of the people always near Obama? GE is one of the leading companies with jobs outside the US. As for the tax increase on the Rich, do you think the companies will just eat this increase and not raise prices or make some cuts to absorb the difference. Think of it from a small business stand point. If I own a landscaping company and I have 3 people cut your lawn every week for 60 dollars, If the goverment puts a tax on me that equals 6 dollars of your 60 going to the IRS, should I raise your fee by six bucks or cut your lawn with 2 people instead of 3? Either way someone loses.

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Is he or is he not ignoring the war powers resolution with the campaign in Libya? Yes he got Bin Laden and he should be commended for that. The health care bill is part of the spending that I am talking about. Its going to be a huge bill that us tax payers will have to pay for. Yes he extended the middle class tax cuts, but just like Bush, re has not cut down on spending. Now read that last statement carefully. Bush did just as bad as Obama. I will not clear him of responsibility just because he is a republican. Yes the republicans raised the debt ceiling 7 times for Bush. That still doesn't make it right. What about the 14th amendment and Anchor babies do you wish to debate? And since its a debate I feel there is no need to throw insults like republcants or reich wingers. We can have an intelligent debate without name calling. Also you mentioned tax breaks for companies who move jobs overseas. Isn't Jeff Immelt one of the people always near Obama? GE is one of the leading companies with jobs outside the US. As for the tax increase on the Rich, do you think the companies will just eat this increase and not raise prices or make some cuts to absorb the difference. Think of it from a small business stand point. If I own a landscaping company and I have 3 people cut your lawn every week for 60 dollars, If the goverment puts a tax on me that equals 6 dollars of your 60 going to the IRS, should I raise your fee by six bucks or cut your lawn with 2 people instead of 3? Either way someone loses.

 

I love proving my point! The more she talks just proves how dumb she really is.

 

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/07/bachmann-vows-end-nonexistent-federal-program

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Wow you all sound like a bunch of stupid little brats besides this website was built to talk about Ford it's products, and the people that work there. Maybe all you brainiatcs should start a political forum where you can talk about DC all day, in the meantime they ALL (politicians) continue to stick it to US (people).

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Wow you all sound like a bunch of stupid little brats besides this website was built to talk about Ford it's products, and the people that work there. Maybe all you brainiatcs should start a political forum where you can talk about DC all day, in the meantime they ALL (politicians) continue to stick it to US (people).

 

Why I would tend to agree that most of them do want to stick it to the people, why cant Ford employees discuss whatever they want on this forum? I didn't realize we gave up our free speech on Blue Oval. We have the right to debate any topic we choose to and you have the right to read it or ignore it.

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First off you didn't vote for Obama the first time, your defense for idiotic palin gave you away.. Second to vote for any party who fights to give tax breaks to the the companies that ship work overseas is nuts! And if Republicans were really concern about cutting spending they would start with eliminating tax breaks for the wealthy (Which hasn't created or saved one single job)! Bush tax cuts caused the worst recession in the history of this country, yet right wingers won't to continue adding almost a trillion dollars to the backs of the working class, where is the logic...........Conservatives=Fear of everything... Fear is not of God but they continue to call themselves christians..

 

you watch too much rachel maddow. think for yourself a bit more instead of parroting the talking points of the left.

 

didn't obama commit to keeping taxes fixed for 2 years because of the negative impact tax hikes would have on jobs? - yes. "We have arrived at a framework of a bipartisan agreement," Obama said. "For the next two years, every American family will keep their tax cuts."

 

http://www.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/12/obama-addresses-possible-deal-on-bush-tax-cuts/1

 

didn't Obama admin. promise unemployment wouldn't exceed 8% with the stimulus? - yes

 

http://otrans.3cdn.net/ee40602f9a7d8172b8_ozm6bt5oi.pdf

 

 

The bottom line is that we have a spending problem not a revenue problem. as proven by the CBO's estimate for tax receipts of 2.2 TRILLION in 2010

 

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/108xx/doc10871/Chapter4.shtml

 

Obama has proven the folly of on the job training and the liberal economic mindset. tax and spend is not a way to success. case closed.

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you watch too much rachel maddow. think for yourself a bit more instead of parroting the talking points of the left.

 

didn't obama commit to keeping taxes fixed for 2 years because of the negative impact tax hikes would have on jobs? - yes. "We have arrived at a framework of a bipartisan agreement," Obama said. "For the next two years, every American family will keep their tax cuts."

 

http://www.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/12/obama-addresses-possible-deal-on-bush-tax-cuts/1

 

didn't Obama admin. promise unemployment wouldn't exceed 8% with the stimulus? - yes

 

http://otrans.3cdn.net/ee40602f9a7d8172b8_ozm6bt5oi.pdf

 

 

The bottom line is that we have a spending problem not a revenue problem. as proven by the CBO's estimate for tax receipts of 2.2 TRILLION in 2010

 

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/108xx/doc10871/Chapter4.shtml

 

Obama has proven the folly of on the job training and the liberal economic mindset. tax and spend is not a way to success. case closed.

 

Hey you dumb fuck! we have a revenue problem! Stop listening to Faux news lies and research for your self. Lasr year alone we had the lowest revenue intake in the U.S. in decades.. So do your research and stop repeating Faux lies...

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Hey you dumb fuck! we have a revenue problem! Stop listening to Faux news lies and research for your self. Lasr year alone we had the lowest revenue intake in the U.S. in decades.. So do your research and stop repeating Faux lies...

 

I think our problem is a spending one. No matter how much revenue big government gets they keep spending more.

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Hey you dumb fuck! we have a revenue problem! Stop listening to Faux news lies and research for your self. Lasr year alone we had the lowest revenue intake in the U.S. in decades.. So do your research and stop repeating Faux lies...

 

 

 

ease up on the emotions and try again

 

last year we had the lowest revenue since 2005. not in 10 years.

 

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200

 

notice how obama nearly tripled the yearly deficits in 2009 and 2010 (from 2008)

 

while revenue dropped by app.15%, spending increased by 20%. in the face of a recession and potential lower tax receipts, spending GREW

 

i.e. we have a spending problem.

 

if you have trouble understanding the numbers, i can walk you through them.

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ease up on the emotions and try again

 

last year we had the lowest revenue since 2005. not in 10 years.

 

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200

 

notice how obama nearly tripled the yearly deficits in 2009 and 2010 (from 2008)

 

while revenue dropped by app.15%, spending increased by 20%. in the face of a recession and potential lower tax receipts, spending GREW

 

i.e. we have a spending problem.

 

if you have trouble understanding the numbers, i can walk you through them.

 

 

Exactly my point! The only way to get you right wingers to fess up is to make exaggerate the story a bit. There is a revenue problem because of idiots like Romney shipping our jobs overseas and getting tax breaks while doing so. If it wasn't for Pres Obama there would be no manufactruring base left in this country. Then where would the revenue be. Wise up puppet man! Revenue plays a major role....... If you so anti spending why hasn't getting rid of the $800billion worth of tax breaks come out of your pie hole? I will tell you why, because you talking out of your ass! Do what you are told, you will never lead anything... You will continue to be a puppet.

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Exactly my point! The only way to get you right wingers to fess up is to make exaggerate the story a bit. There is a revenue problem because of idiots like Romney shipping our jobs overseas and getting tax breaks while doing so. If it wasn't for Pres Obama there would be no manufactruring base left in this country. Then where would the revenue be. Wise up puppet man! Revenue plays a major role....... If you so anti spending why hasn't getting rid of the $800billion worth of tax breaks come out of your pie hole? I will tell you why, because you talking out of your ass! Do what you are told, you will never lead anything... You will continue to be a puppet.

 

pie hole

ass

 

you sure are an angry person.

 

tax cuts aren't spending. do you understand that? that's a pretty fundamental piece of logic that, if you don't understand, signals that you really shouldn't be on here preaching about such things.

 

RE spending, i guess you didn't read the link or don't understand the math, so i'll explain it along with some info about taxes in a simple way. hope it helps!

 

taxes are directly related to GDP and economic activity. Therefore it's much less of a fixed income than a variable income. i.e. it changes every year. Congress can change the tax base, but it does not have a direct impact on revenue (see laffer curve).

 

Spending levels, on the other hand, are set directly by congress, with no regard to income. and the congress, with the approval of the president, dramatically increased spending in the face of a weakening economy. i.e., we have a spending problem because despite knowing revenue would decrease, they did nothing to raise revenue and in fact INCREASED spending. if they had held it the same your argument might hold water. but they didn't. so it doesn't.

 

let me know if you need further explanation. it's always a joy to educate those on the left who've been led so far astray of reality.

 

but hey, you're posts are entertaining! even if they do give us ford employees a bad name. so preach on !!!!

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If you so anti spending why hasn't getting rid of the $800billion worth of tax breaks come out of your pie hole?

 

Until you understand tax cuts are not "spending", then there is no point in having a conversation with you. Since you can't understand the basic concept, you are literally too stupid to have a debate with.

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Lc, this post was before our discussion on taxes. As I said before 40 percent pay no income tax. You were correct on the other taxes. I agree on the immigration statement you made partially. Legal immigration is just fine by me. Illegal immigrants should not benefit from our tax dollars. There is a legal way to enter our country. What irritates me is the Mexican president giving us crap over our policy while their own immigration policy is worse than ours.

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Why I would tend to agree that most of them do want to stick it to the people, why cant Ford employees discuss whatever they want on this forum? I didn't realize we gave up our free speech on Blue Oval. We have the right to debate any topic we choose to and you have the right to read it or ignore it.

 

Sorry you are right, now I remember why I don't come here often. So much for talking about what is going on at Ford.

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Palin's not ignorant because of her mistakes, she's ignorant because she is. I think she took some of here college classes at the in-house cheat-a-class that the Plants used to have. All kidding aside, she's just not qualified to be anything in the government. The average state and federal worker have better degree's in things that actually matter than her "It Took Five colleges to get my undergrad in Sports journalism" degree.

 

I still don’t understand what you people think you are accomplishing by consistently attacking Sarah Palin. I do not recall a single time that anyone here has ever defended her out right, or claimed she had their unwavering support.

 

But I get it, you will not acknowledge what Obama is, so you attack Palin.

 

Let me explain this again to you. Yes, Palin is an absolute idiot that has no business being in the Oval Office. She’s not nearly educated, or experienced enough, and quite frankly, she scares me. Having said all that, I see very little difference between her, and your Messiah, Barrack Hussian Obama. Oh, except that Palin had actually accomplished something in her political career before she made a run at the White House.

 

The question isn’t whether Palin is ignorant, the question is how you can call Palin ignorant, and not say the same about the guy you voted for. And let’s be honest, maybe you should refrain from making comments about Palin’s college days, considering your guy has kept his college records secret.

 

Who pays no taxes??? Didn't we have this discussion already? Everyone pays taxes. Unless they don't buy anything, or use a phone or have electricity to their home, etc.

 

You’re arguing semantics to try and muddy the issue.

 

Yes, the guy who votes Democrat every 2 years does pay taxes when he takes his government issued cheque down to the local bodega to buy cigarettes. But there is a huge difference between giving a couple hundred bucks back to the same source who provides for you, as opposed to giving a couple hundred thousand of your own hard earned money.

 

I was at a fundraiser golf tournament this weekend, and the “Platinum Level” donators were given better seats, had their food delivered first, and were given better prizes than the rest of us. Somebody made a comment about it, and my very liberal friend said that those people deserved better, because they had given more. The look on his face when I asked him why he feels the opposite about taxes made my day.

 

Your right about the last part but the republican party isn't about people who bust their ass and work in horrible conditions just to get ahead.

 

Don’t worry the Left has given them more than enough love, they don’t need someone else pandering to them as well.

 

The funny thing is, the Left doesn’t actually help these people get ahead. Instead creating an environment where they are stuck where they are. The perfect pawn.

 

Those are illegal immigrants and the right hates them, although the conservative farmers use the shit out of them. Interesting ground the right takes.

 

Could it be that since liberal farmers use them, that conservative farmers must do the same in order to stay competitive?

 

I say the easiest thing is to close the boarder. Why is your side is against it?

 

Hates the people on welfare and public assistance and considers them bad

 

As opposed to what, being good?

 

There is a difference between needing a helping hand, and being a leech.

 

How would you feel if your landlord asked you to kick in an extra hundred bucks, because Johnny in 2A lost his job and can’t make rent. Then the next month it’s the same. Then again after that. All the while Johnny is stilling on his ass playing Xbox instead of trying to better himself. Are you telling me that you would be perfectly fine giving up your money to help Johnny?

 

Hates people who sneak over here to do backbreaking labor just to support their families

 

“Sneak” over the boarder? Yes. Yes. You’re God damn right. If you need to “sneak” around to do anything, what you’re doing is wrong. Enter the country legally. Work hard. Then I will fully support your effort to help your family. But instead you want to support someone who is not a legal citizen. Someone who does not pay taxes.

 

Hates Union members who make a good liviing and don't have to bust their ass all the time.

 

Conservatives don’t hate union members. They hate lazy and useless union members.

 

Likes people who work in offices wielding power and getting stock options in the tens of millions.

 

So you’re telling me, given the chance, you wouldn’t give up the life of an autoworker, in exchange for a very well paying salary job?

 

Give me a break. If you could, you would. Some people may not be cut out for that type of work, but I have yet to hear anyone who dreams of driving a Focus instead of a Benz.

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