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I like what Donald Trump has to say about not letting other countries take advantage of America, but I wish he would let the birth certificate thing go. I feel that other countries are laughing at our stupid politicians. They know that they are stealing our jobs and OPEC is charging what ever they want per barrel of oil. We need some one in Washington who is going to stand up for America and say we will give you $40-$50 per barrel and that is all.

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I like what Donald Trump has to say about not letting other countries take advantage of America, but I wish he would let the birth certificate thing go. I feel that other countries are laughing at our stupid politicians. They know that they are stealing our jobs and OPEC is charging what ever they want per barrel of oil. We need some one in Washington who is going to stand up for America and say we will give you $40-$50 per barrel and that is all.

 

And OPEC nations will say, "Okay, we'll sell it to the Chinese and Indians for more money." Then what?

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I like what Donald Trump has to say about not letting other countries take advantage of America, but I wish he would let the birth certificate thing go. I feel that other countries are laughing at our stupid politicians. They know that they are stealing our jobs and OPEC is charging what ever they want per barrel of oil. We need some one in Washington who is going to stand up for America and say we will give you $40-$50 per barrel and that is all.

If they only thought our politicians were stupid, we would be in good shape. I'm afraid the play issues like this get reflect on the population as a whole.

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:hysterical2: :hysterical2: I wonder if the mainstream media will pick up on this important issue.

 

In other news:

 

http://www.borowitzreport.com/2011/04/24/trump-dogged-by-rumors-his-hair-is-not-from-us/

 

“If I am given the chance to do the same magic I did for NBC, America will be the number four country in the world.”

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Hum? From what I see the majority of the population could stand some extra education. Governments lie, including our own. Is the birth certificate real? A few things are making me and others suspicious. Of course the gullible believe everything the government dishes out. Just like the recent story about Libyans on Viagra story raping for endless hours the women. Sounds like babies being tossed from incubators, another government lie to get the American people behind the Iraq war. Looks like we will be invading Libya soon. What's a few more billions of dollars down the drain? As long as we can get the paper stock, keep the presses running!

 

And another thing, OPEC doesn't set prices. Oil is a commodity and is bid upon by refineries and investors buying futures. OPEC can influence the price by adjusting the supply on the market. But it seems everyone wants to blame the dirty Arabs for all our woes, kill them all attitude. Me, I'm just a conspiracy theorists. I use history, logic and scientific facts while making decisions.

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Yeah, except when some of us suspect the government of lying (Iraq), we end up proven right, and when some suspect the government of lying, they end up proven wrong. I have to say in all sincerity sprinter, you are entitled to draw your own conclusions from the preponderance of evidence - God bless you, I celebrate your capacity for independent thought - but your position at this point on this particular issue is right up there with the moon landing conspiracists and the flat earth society (hmmm - looks like they've "exceeded their bandwidth" today ...... that's true in more ways than one). I'm not saying you have to abandon your skepticism or your beliefs - such as they are - but you might want to take a step back and deeply question your subconscious motives. I'm not asking for a confessional or anything, or even trying to directly or indirectly impugn your character, which I have no reason to do, just urging some self-reflection. When logical faculties can be so far bent as to believe at this point, one has to question whether there aren't powerful subconscious forces beyond the realm of logic at work.

 

 

[edit in] p.s. I don't want to blame the dirty Arabs. I want to blame the dirty oil companies and the dirty commodities traders (just as some others on here surely want to blame the dirty NIMBYers and the dirty EPA).

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I was at Costco the other day putting things in the cargo area of my new Explorer when an old man walked up to me and ask how I liked the new Explorer. I told him I love it and he began telling me he loved GM products all his life. He pointed to this old Buick next to us and said it's time to buy a new vehicle and he loved the new look of the Explorer. He explained to me he would never buy a GM product again because GM took Obama's money and sold the Company to the Government. As he continued, he went crazy on Obama raising his voice saying he was not even born in the US. I added to the flames just to get a good grin and told him I thought GM even changed their name to "Government Motors" for Obama. When I said that, he must have realized how stupid he was acting and walked away. This news today must have upset that poor man again.

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Yeah, except when some of us suspect the government of lying (Iraq), we end up proven right, and when some suspect the government of lying, they end up proven wrong. I have to say in all sincerity sprinter, you are entitled to draw your own conclusions from the preponderance of evidence - God bless you, I celebrate your capacity for independent thought - but your position at this point on this particular issue is right up there with the moon landing conspiracists and the flat earth society (hmmm - looks like they've "exceeded their bandwidth" today ...... that's true in more ways than one). I'm not saying you have to abandon your skepticism or your beliefs - such as they are - but you might want to take a step back and deeply question your subconscious motives. I'm not asking for a confessional or anything, or even trying to directly or indirectly impugn your character, which I have no reason to do, just urging some self-reflection. When logical faculties can be so far bent as to believe at this point, one has to question whether there aren't powerful subconscious forces beyond the realm of logic at work.

 

 

[edit in] p.s. I don't want to blame the dirty Arabs. I want to blame the dirty oil companies and the dirty commodities traders (just as some others on here surely want to blame the dirty NIMBYers and the dirty EPA).

 

To make you feel better Retro, I do believe the earth is spherical. Now for the moon landing there are a few irregularities. For example, Newton's 3rd law seems to have been negated on the moon's surface. The rockets firing to slow the decent would have blow away the dust and probably cratered the landing zone. Not a single picture or video indicates that happened. A thinner atmosphere would not stop the force of the spent gases that are emitted to counter gravity. And after 3 1/2 decades of technology advancements, we land millions of dollars of equipment on Mars using an inflatable ball that bounces to dissipate energy.

 

I have a scrapbook full of original news stories that I collected as a child. Those were moments all Americans were proud because we beat the Russians there. But as you probably know, there were a lot of failures before that moment. Maybe that moment never happened and our government took the easy way out not wanting NASA to become a huge national disappointment. From what I read the Apollo program cost more than twenty billion dollars. And in 1969, that was some serious change. With a successful lunar landing, NASA would have full public support. That would also guarantee its use for deployment of military applications. Do you see why this was so vital?

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To make you feel better Retro, I do believe the earth is spherical. Now for the moon landing there are a few irregularities. For example, Newton's 3rd law seems to have been negated on the moon's surface. The rockets firing to slow the decent would have blow away the dust and probably cratered the landing zone. Not a single picture or video indicates that happened. A thinner atmosphere would not stop the force of the spent gases that are emitted to counter gravity. And after 3 1/2 decades of technology advancements, we land millions of dollars of equipment on Mars using an inflatable ball that bounces to dissipate energy.

 

I have a scrapbook full of original news stories that I collected as a child. Those were moments all Americans were proud because we beat the Russians there. But as you probably know, there were a lot of failures before that moment. Maybe that moment never happened and our government took the easy way out not wanting NASA to become a huge national disappointment. From what I read the Apollo program cost more than twenty billion dollars. And in 1969, that was some serious change. With a successful lunar landing, NASA would have full public support. That would also guarantee its use for deployment of military applications. Do you see why this was so vital?

 

 

Sprinter's a Mooner too.

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To make you feel better Retro, I do believe the earth is spherical. Now for the moon landing there are a few irregularities. For example, Newton's 3rd law seems to have been negated on the moon's surface. The rockets firing to slow the decent would have blow away the dust and probably cratered the landing zone. Not a single picture or video indicates that happened. A thinner atmosphere would not stop the force of the spent gases that are emitted to counter gravity. And after 3 1/2 decades of technology advancements, we land millions of dollars of equipment on Mars using an inflatable ball that bounces to dissipate energy.

 

I have a scrapbook full of original news stories that I collected as a child. Those were moments all Americans were proud because we beat the Russians there. But as you probably know, there were a lot of failures before that moment. Maybe that moment never happened and our government took the easy way out not wanting NASA to become a huge national disappointment. From what I read the Apollo program cost more than twenty billion dollars. And in 1969, that was some serious change. With a successful lunar landing, NASA would have full public support. That would also guarantee its use for deployment of military applications. Do you see why this was so vital?

Like I said sprinter, I celebrate your capacity for independent thought!

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Two thoughts: first, people who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it. For example, Operation Northwoods which President Kennedy rejected back in the early sixty's.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

 

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.

 

The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro.

 

America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."

 

Amazing what lengths our military would stoop too to obtain public support. We know this to be true because it was obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. Obama promised transparency during his campaign but has instead closed his and Bush's records preventing these future government embarrassments.

 

Second, things are looking worse for Obama and his birth certificate. I think he should have found a better forger. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJfdKClbH4

 

Now I don't have Adobe Illustrator to check this out for authenticity but am sure this will attract more attention. Like I have said before, we are dealing with a shyster "LAWYER" from Chicago.

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If the birthers really believe that Obama has pulled the wool over everyone's eyes, then they will have to admit he is the smartest man alive. He was able to get quite a bit of co-conspirators lined up to help him perpetrate this great scam, starting with the Hawaiian government. Just think even the Bush administration had to be in on it, along with Mcain and all the rest of the presidential hopefuls. No way he could of pulled it off without all these other co-conspirators.

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