ANTAUS Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Let's see if these people will sue... LINK-CFNews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyhollema Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 (edited) 11 People in a 7 Seat car. And they 'believe' many of the children werent wearing seatbelts???? Really?? Im no mathematician but 7 doesnt divide by 11 very easily. Edited October 4, 2009 by finnegan81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Thats a terrible thing to happen. I feel for the families involved. However, it wouldn't suprise if someone tries to sue Ford. Due to the fact that our justice system will award them for being irresponsible. Making rediculous statements like Ford should have made it safer even its improperly loaded. Nevermind the fact it had too many occupants for the number of seats with the possibility of poor maintenance of tires. All in all, from the pictures, the explorer looks structuraly intact. I would believe had everyone in the vehicle been securly seatbelted, all would have come out with minor injury only. I do feel bad for everyone involved, but there is a time when people should use some common sense. But ofcourse we all know common sense isn't so common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 (edited) Root cause There’s nothing she can do when you drive 70 miles an hour, and you get two flat tires on same sides So what cause 2 flat tire simultaneously ? Pot hole ? Curb ? Piece of steel ? Under inflated/worn tires ? Yes, it is a tragedy. The tragedy started when 11 people got into a vehicle designed for 7 and they drove off without seat belts. At least the cops are doing the rigt thing ... in addition to the loss of her son, she also faces charges. Troopers said the SUV was overloaded at the time of the crash, and investigators said they believe many of the children were not wearing seat belts. Edited October 4, 2009 by theoldwizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W. Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I do feel bad for everyone involved, but there is a time when people should use some common sense. But ofcourse we all know common sense isn't so common. + 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixt9coug Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 11 People in a 7 Seat car. And they 'believe' many of the children werent wearing seatbelts???? Really?? Im no mathematician but 7 doesnt divide by 11 very easily. Explorers are 7 seaters now? Wow ive been out of the loop lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Explorers are 7 seaters now? Wow ive been out of the loop lol Yeah, 2-3-2. I agree with fordtech1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 It is too bad and I hope everything will turn out well. I also hope someone doesn't put the bug in a suffering parents ear to sue Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 It is too bad and I hope everything will turn out well. I also hope someone doesn't put the bug in a suffering parents ear to sue Ford. Im am sure that since the driver will receive a charge, then a ton of lawyer advertisements will show up in the mail. So I am sure it will, if not already crossed their mind. However, I seriously doubt they will have a case. What can they sue for? The roof was not collapsed in. Ofcourse no one will ever know, but had there only been 7 people in the car and all belted in properly the occupants would have not been thrown out. If the roof collapsed or a suspension component failed then ok, otherwise I don't see a case. I wonder what made the tires fail. I figure by the looks, its a 02-03 explorer. Without knowing, I would guess possible road debris, or wore out/poorly maintained tires. But thats just a guess. I see alot of vehicles with wore out tires. Alot of people don't fix until they have to in order to get their tag renewed. (NC has state inspections) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme4x4 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 If 2 tires failed, I would say she ran over road debris. Possibly an "alligator" from a big truck. I guess I'm just weird. I maintain my vehicles, and we check everything out before we leave for any trip of any distance. Funny thing is, I am 45 years old, and have never had 2 tires fail. Of course, I avoid road debris also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Overloaded+passenger car radials on a truck=accident waiting to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Funny thing is, I am 45 years old, and have never had 2 tires fail. Of course, I avoid road debris also. Been driving over 40 years. I have NEVER had a "blow out". As a matter of fact, I can only think of 1 flat tire on the road. The 1 or 2 others have been in the driveway ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005Explorer Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Im am sure that since the driver will receive a charge, then a ton of lawyer advertisements will show up in the mail. So I am sure it will, if not already crossed their mind. However, I seriously doubt they will have a case. What can they sue for? The roof was not collapsed in. Ofcourse no one will ever know, but had there only been 7 people in the car and all belted in properly the occupants would have not been thrown out. If the roof collapsed or a suspension component failed then ok, otherwise I don't see a case. I wonder what made the tires fail. I figure by the looks, its a 02-03 explorer. Without knowing, I would guess possible road debris, or wore out/poorly maintained tires. But thats just a guess. I see alot of vehicles with wore out tires. Alot of people don't fix until they have to in order to get their tag renewed. (NC has state inspections) Structurally the vehicle held up pretty well. I could see a lawsuit coming, but it is going to be pretty tough if they had more passengers then seat belts in the vehicle and not all passengers were wearing their seatbelt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrewfanGRB Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 This stuff pisses me off--Ford vehicle or not. What kind of brain-dead moron takes ANY vehicle and tries stuffing 10 kids into it, when the vehicle is clearly not designed for that? Grr. Furthermore, what brain-dead parent lets their child go on this trip? Do they not ask who is driving? How does that conversation go? Brain-dead parent: So how many people are going on this trip? Brain-dead driver: Oh me, and Johnny, Jenny, Julie, Jimmy, Timmy, Tommy, Sarah, Haley, Josie and Josh. That's it. Brain-dead parent: Ok, good. Wait, what kind of car do you drive? Brain-dead driver: An Explorer. Brain-dead parent: Oh, well those are huge, I think. Well, have fun, bye now. Gimme a break. Sounds like what this case needs is a good dose of Child Protective Services. It might do some good for all the other parents to THINK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernestb48104 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Overload, exceed normal weight on tires.... there is no cause to sue FORD.... the driver was negligent since there was only 7 belts, and the driver chose to have 11.... the driver needs a mental eval... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Overload, exceed normal weight on tires.... there is no cause to sue FORD.... the driver was negligent since there was only 7 belts, and the driver chose to have 11.... the driver needs a mental eval... Was it even a 7 passenger model? In the side shots it doesn't look as if the 3rd row was fitted, it looks at if it was a 2002 model Explorer. I see people overloading cars all the time, just yesterday I saw a Sebring (newer style) with 5 kids in the back seat, and one kid on the lady's lap in the front seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Been driving over 40 years. I have NEVER had a "blow out". As a matter of fact, I can only think of 1 flat tire on the road. The 1 or 2 others have been in the driveway ! I drove over a piece of wood in the very early morning...I didn't even see it...and had two flat tires on the drivers side when I pulled into my driveway 5 minutes later..it had a damn nail in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Was it even a 7 passenger model? In the side shots it doesn't look as if the 3rd row was fitted, it looks at if it was a 2002 model Explorer. I see people overloading cars all the time, just yesterday I saw a Sebring (newer style) with 5 kids in the back seat, and one kid on the lady's lap in the front seat. You know, seeing that stuff makes me want to follow the car, pull the driver out, and beat the sh_t out of them! And then hold the child for protective services! Our kids are always belted, and we don't let them ride with other people for reasons like this. Chances are, an accident like this won't happen, but if it does, I don't want to be telling myslef for years: 'If only'. Wow...terrible loss, but they have no one to blame but themselves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Truly sad story. The Driver's son was the child who died. There is no excuse for putting 11 people in an Explorer and not having children belted. I don't see the basis for a successful suit here since the child who died was ejected and presunably not belted in himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackintire Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Most likely the tires were bald too. If the were bald and not properly inflated one or more tires could have produced a blow out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Plus... the vehicle was traveling at 70MPH and the article states, "Excessive speed was not a factor." When it is overloaded it is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 Well supposedly this was a church group heading to see the lord, its just one of them will have a personal one to one with god. So far I haven't heard what caused it, if it was debris or something...did the tire pressure monitoring system bleep before that and the driver ignored it? So far, nothing has been said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJRivera Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 At least the cops are doing the rigt thing Unfortunately, the courts often don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJRivera Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Im am sure that since the driver will receive a charge, then a ton of lawyer advertisements will show up in the mail. No need for mailings... they just chased the ambulance straight to the hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 ...did the tire pressure monitoring system bleep before that and the driver ignored it? looking at the vehicle and wheel type, I would say this was a 02-03 explorer XLT. Chances are that vehicle was not equipped with TPMS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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