pullthecord Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I was having a discussion with my UAW rep the other day, when he tells me that he drives a Milan. How un-informed are these guys, does the dumb ass not know where it is assembled at or does he not care. I think that I am gonna run against him next election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyCane Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I was having a discussion with my UAW rep the other day, when he tells me that he drives a Milan. How un-informed are these guys, does the dumb ass not know where it is assembled at or does he not care. I think that I am gonna run against him next election. At least he drives a Company product...............You should see all the GM and Chrysler vehicles in the parking lot at DTP.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pullthecord Posted September 21, 2009 Author Share Posted September 21, 2009 At least he drives a Company product...............You should see all the GM and Chrysler vehicles in the parking lot at DTP.. I would respect him more if he drove a UAW made GM or Chrysler or even a CAW made vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dividedwebeg Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I was having a discussion with my UAW rep the other day, when he tells me that he drives a Milan. How un-informed are these guys, does the dumb ass not know where it is assembled at or does he not care. I think that I am gonna run against him next election. Its sad that "American made" is so diluted now. I do believe the engines, transmissions, and other compnents are UAW made. The sales still help the North American bottom line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster6969 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Its sad that "American made" is so diluted now. I do believe the engines, transmissions, and other compnents are UAW made. The sales still help the North American bottom line. BS, you sound like someone from the company now! Assembly is the biggest thing in putting together a car. Build it there, let them sell it there. Keep that shit south of the border! Buy an American made car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-lo Saline Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 BS, you sound like someone from the company now! Assembly is the biggest thing in putting together a car. Build it there, let them sell it there. Keep that shit south of the border! Buy an American made car! so you would rather have them drive a built down south Toyota? get real ,any ford product sale helps us in the whole scope of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtpworker1993 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I would respect him more if he drove a UAW made GM or Chrysler or even a CAW made vehicle. I thought the same thing but I know a few people that have family members working for those company's so I guess it's better than seeing a Toyota or Honda in the parking lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kel25 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 At least he drives a Company product...............You should see all the GM and Chrysler vehicles in the parking lot at DTP.. At least the GM and Chrysler vehicles are UAW made the one that gets me are all the Toyotas and Hondas that are at DTP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sun3 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I was having a discussion with my UAW rep the other day, when he tells me that he drives a Milan. How un-informed are these guys, does the dumb ass not know where it is assembled at or does he not care. I think that I am gonna run against him next election. At least the profits for this car stays in the states!! Time for America to realize the reason we are so against foreign cars. The reason is that the profits go to another country!!! Even though we all know that our cars do not contain all American made parts, kno0w that the profits stay in America!!! Any union rep that does not support the company he works for should be voted out--simple as that!!! Recalled would be better!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyCane Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 At least the GM and Chrysler vehicles are UAW made the one that gets me are all the Toyotas and Hondas that are at DTP. There check has "FORD" on it......Support who puts food on your table!! Sorry but GM and Chrysler don't put food on my table! Last time I checked I paid the UAW the UAW didn't pay me....So once again support the company you work for"FORD"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kel25 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 There check has "FORD" on it......Support who puts food on your table!! Sorry but GM and Chrysler don't put food on my table!Last time I checked I paid the UAW the UAW didn't pay me....So once again support the company you work for"FORD"! What do you drive a Mazda ? To me thats foreign also. Aren't we all brothers and sisters in the UAW ? Thats what the union is all about sticken together isn't it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rn4 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 What do you drive a Mazda ? To me thats foreign also. Aren't we all brothers and sisters in the UAW ? Thats what the union is all about sticken together isn't it . You are still in competition with GM and Chrysler, if Ford goes out of business your pay check will be from the unemployment office. So supporting yuor fellow UAW brothers and sisters can only go so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sun3 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 You are still in competition with GM and Chrysler, if Ford goes out of business your pay check will be from the unemployment office. So supporting yuor fellow UAW brothers and sisters can only go so far. Some people will never get it! They say--my money and I'll spend as I like. True, but do you want to continue getting--your money??? Then support the one you get your money from, simple! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocash Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 (edited) Some people will never get it! They say--my money and I'll spend as I like. True, but do you want to continue getting--your money??? Then support the one you get your money from, simple! Why would any UAW or CAW member buy a Ford Fusion or soon a Ford Fiesta?...buying these cars that are made in Mexico are killing our plants and costing ALL of us Jobs...Keeping the money in the company is becoming a joke, Ford will not stop trying to take from us,they just don't "get it".....Don't buy the Mexican made cars and let the plants in Mexico fail....we must lead by example and tell our neighbours,family and friends not to buy these cars....BUY CANADIAN or AMERICAN made Ford products....to hell with MEXICO. Edited September 21, 2009 by gocash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400member Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 At least the profits for this car stays in the states!! Time for America to realize the reason we are so against foreign cars. The reason is that the profits go to another country!!! Even though we all know that our cars do not contain all American made parts, kno0w that the profits stay in America!!! Any union rep that does not support the company he works for should be voted out--simple as that!!! Recalled would be better!! NOw I don't approve of the reeps purchasing foreign assembled cars, especially in light of the salary and benefits they get. But don't kid yourself, Ford is rapidly spending the money overseas to replace or dual source assembly operations instead of investing here where the market is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 (edited) Why would any UAW or CAW member buy a Ford Fusion or soon a Ford Fiesta?...buying these cars that are made in Mexico are killing our plants and costing ALL of us Jobs...Keeping the money in the company is becoming a joke, Ford will not stop trying to take from us,they just don't "get it".....Don't buy the Mexican made cars and let the plants in Mexico fail....we must lead by example and tell our neighbours,family and friends not to buy these cars....BUY CANADIAN or AMERICAN made Ford products....to hell with MEXICO. That's a tough one. I believe the principles behind what you are saying, however they only build the F-Series, E-Series, the Mustang, The Escape, and the Focus in the US. What if you don't have a need for any vehicle in these classes? I bought a Fusion because I needed a 4 door vehicle in it's price range that was good on gas. If I had not bought the Fusion I would have had to go to GM, or Chrysler to get what I needed. Like it was said already, at least the profits are kept and spent in the U.S. All the domestic auto manufacturer's really muddied up the "buy American" argument by building abroad, however how would they have stayed in business against foreign competition that was allowed to utilize cheap labor without doing so? It is a huge complicated cluster f-ck. I understand what has happened, but it is a waste of time trying to explain it to people who don't understand, and/or don't give a rat's a-s. These people will just buy their foreign crap till we are all unemployed/or on welfare! Edited September 21, 2009 by Furious1Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocash Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 That's a tough one. I believe the principles behind what you are saying, however they only build the F-Series, E-Series, the Mustang, The Escape, and the Focus in the US. What if you don't have a need for any vehicle in these classes? I bought a Fusion because I needed a 4 door vehicle in it's price range that was good on gas. If I had not bought the Fusion I would have had to go to GM, or Chrysler to get what I needed. Like it was said already, at least the profits are kept and spent in the U.S. All the domestic auto manufacturer's really muddied up the "buy American" argument by building abroad, however how would they have stayed in business against foreign competition that was allowed to utilize cheap labor without doing so? It is a huge complicated cluster f-ck. I understand what has happened, but it is a waste of time trying to explain it to people who don't understand, and/or don't give a rat's a-s. These people will just buy their foreign crap till we are all unemployed/or on welfare! I hear you Furious,people buy a car based on their individual needs and within their spending limits...unfortunately for us it will continue to be this way....I know 2 people who bought a Fusion not knowing that it was built in Mexico,and wish that they hadn't bought it because of where it was built afterwards...If we could only get the Mexican wages brought up to narrow the gap we wouldn't constantly be facing the concession demands from Ford....just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster6969 Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 so you would rather have them drive a built down south Toyota? get real ,any ford product sale helps us in the whole scope of this. If we didn't buy them foreign vehicles they would realize that they have to bring them back in the US. So they do not help us, the UAW! I would rather buy an american made Toyota that a Mexico made car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster6969 Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 At least the profits for this car stays in the states!! Time for America to realize the reason we are so against foreign cars. The reason is that the profits go to another country!!! Even though we all know that our cars do not contain all American made parts, kno0w that the profits stay in America!!! Any union rep that does not support the company he works for should be voted out--simple as that!!! Recalled would be better!! The profits do not, they go to Mexico and other foreign country's to help build new plants outside of the US. Wake the fk up! When you buy a Mexico built car you are buying a non UAW foreign car. Nice, at least if you buy an American made Toyota you are supporting American working families. Maybe someday they will see the light and organize, that will never be the case in Mexico! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1993Stang Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 If we didn't buy them foreign vehicles they would realize that they have to bring them back in the US. So they do not help us, the UAW! I would rather buy an american made Toyota that a Mexico made car! Both points made are good ones. I have 3 vehicles, a Mustang, Focus, and a Milan. I support Ford 100%. I too needed a four door reliable car for my children and the mini-van is no longer around. Flex is way out of my price. I still support my company but I do see the opposition of the Milan. The Taurus was not out yet when I purchased my Milan. I also bought is used so I feel I am keeping the downriver dealer that sold me the car in business exp. before the cash for clunker situation went into effect. I fully back the U.A.W. built cars but like the other poster suggested a lot of the parts in the Milan are directly effecting the jobs held here in the United States. I know most of you say parts are parts, but correct me if my info is wrong but I thought our good old American Mustangs had a lot of Japanese parts in them as well as the Mazda's that are on the same line and vice versa. How American is the car should be planted on the sticker for sure not just where the vehicle is built. Also the "Fusion" is a hot selling car and I would love for Ford to be profitable either way. Hopefully I will be able to trade in my Milan for a Taurus in the near future =) Now the question is would you rather buy an AAI built Mazda where certain profits go back to Japan or a Milan where the profit goes back to Ford? Difficult question for sure? On the GM and Chrysler thing..I met many couple working that had one spouse at Ford and the other at Gm or Chrysler. It was tough to scold them for buying a non-Ford product even though I wanted to. Some A plans were better than others. One couple had the husband driving an old Ford to Chrysler while his wife was driving her husbands new Chrysler to Ford. He had the further drive so the little escort was a better fit for gas for him. She had a short drive with a lease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 To tell you the truth I don't see where the UAW has the numbers to have any drastic effect on Ford's production at all anymore. There where 36,000 master waged UAW employees before the last round of buyouts, how many are in the market for a new vehicle? I would guess maybe 1/4 if that after all of the concessions. Now 1/4 is 9,000 employees, that could buy this year. How many Fusions sold last year? I agree with your premise, but you are not going to cripple the company into building them in the US unless you strike, because all of the non-auto worker dumsh-ts buying them. The public doesn't care about you, most people that can afford new cars are business owners and they hate unions. They also don't understand the implications of their buying decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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