cal50 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 -4? You mean, four people disliked my comment? You mean, there are 4 tools in the shed? :goodnight: What's that old saying.... Jesus loves you but everyone else thinks your an A-hole? (Kidding) Nothing a couple thousand more posts and a few more spiffy animated cartoons cant solve. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 (edited) What's that old saying.... Jesus loves you but everyone else thinks your an A-hole? (Kidding) Nothing a couple thousand more posts and a few more spiffy animated cartoons cant solve. Hey Cal, I'm an atheist. I'm not sure whether it applies to me or not. LOL Edited June 18, 2011 by Furious1Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Only in America. http://consumerist.com/2011/06/man-holds-up-bank-for-1-and-free-prison-medical-care.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Only in America. http://consumerist.c...dical-care.html So, ObamaCare will end bank robbery? Idiots will no longer play the system? Welfare will become productive? The "War On Poverty" has been won? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocheese Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Only in America. http://consumerist.com/2011/06/man-holds-up-bank-for-1-and-free-prison-medical-care.html What, that you Liberals treat the criminals and illegal aliens better than you treat your citizens? Don't worry, the Liberals up here do the same. Where do you think they get their voter base from? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marginal Economist Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Only in America. http://consumerist.com/2011/06/man-holds-up-bank-for-1-and-free-prison-medical-care.html Why did he not qualify for Medicare or Medicaid? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Why did he not qualify for Medicare or Medicaid? Looks like he's not eligible. http://www.ncdhhs.gov/dma/medicaid/who.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Some news today on the Health Care Reform front http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/a-big-blow-to-the-conservative-legal-case-against-health-reform/2011/03/03/AGhgN1qH_blog.html "Posted at 02:55 PM ET, 06/29/2011 A big blow to the conservative legal case against health reform By Greg Sargent So the Obama administration has won a big one in its efforts to defend the health reform law against the conservative legal onslaught, as a three-judge panel for the U.S. Court of Appeals ruled today that it’s constitutional for Congress to require Americans to have health insurance. The big news is that the panel included a Bush appointee who clerked for Antonin Scalia and who is seen as a major states rights advocate. In addition to that, though, the ruling takes a hard shot at the primary legal arguments conservatives have advanced against the mandate:" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 For all you liberals who want a healthcare system modeled after the Brits: Cataracts, hips, knees and tonsils: NHS begins rationing operationsHip replacements, cataract surgery and tonsil removal are among operations now being rationed in a bid to save the NHS money. Two-thirds of health trusts in England are rationing treatments for "non-urgent" conditions as part of the drive to reduce costs in the NHS by £20bn over the next four years. One in three primary-care trusts (PCTs) has expanded the list of procedures it will restrict funding to in the past 12 months. Link WHO decides what is "non-urgent"? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 For all you liberals who want a healthcare system modeled after the Brits: WHO decides what is "non-urgent"? The Conservatives of course......they are the government that is doing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 For all you liberals who want a healthcare system modeled after the Brits: WHO decides what is "non-urgent"? It should be a decision between me and my doctor. Not a politician or bureaucrat with no interest in my health, just following regulations. How's your experience doing your own taxes or have you ever studied to be a private pilot? The regs are all but impossible to follow and still operate without stepping on one reg or another. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 In a socialized health care scenario; it is the ones who can't get "treatment" who are the lucky ones. When health care gets politicized and dogmatized, it deterioriates and becomes downright dangerous. Individual cases are unique, and need to be treated by practitioners who are savvy, not bound by rigid government-imposed procedures. Government naturally evolves it's own agendae. Number one is self-preservation. If it's self preservation requires population control, this will be unconsciously reflected in health care. The free market puts individual people first. The system will break down if it becomes obsolete. Socialism will break the people before it falls. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armstrong Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Some news today on the Health Care Reform front http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/a-big-blow-to-the-conservative-legal-case-against-health-reform/2011/03/03/AGhgN1qH_blog.html "Posted at 02:55 PM ET, 06/29/2011 A big blow to the conservative legal case against health reform By Greg Sargent So the Obama administration has won a big one in its efforts to defend the health reform law against the conservative legal onslaught, as a three-judge panel for the U.S. Court of Appeals ruled today that it’s constitutional for Congress to require Americans to have health insurance. The big news is that the panel included a Bush appointee who clerked for Antonin Scalia and who is seen as a major states rights advocate. In addition to that, though, the ruling takes a hard shot at the primary legal arguments conservatives have advanced against the mandate:" Just a further divide tactic that puts our country in turmoil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Just a further divide tactic that puts our country in turmoil Just woke up from a coma? Try not to dig up month old posts. We've moved on. The forum thanks you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Just woke up from a coma? Try not to dig up month old posts. We've moved on. The forum thanks you. OFF TOPIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armstrong Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Just woke up from a coma? Try not to dig up month old posts. We've moved on. The forum thanks you. July 28th is a month ago?? Sounds like GW Bush math or rithamic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 July 28th is a month ago?? Sounds like GW Bush math or rithamic I stand corrected. 1 post previously in the month of July (since July 3rd, if you want to be technical. The link to your name offers "Find my posts" and only 1 post since July 3. The point was you have not stepped into these waters in many weeks. I was actually greeting you, though in a "poke-in-the-ribs" kind of way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armstrong Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I stand corrected. 1 post previously in the month of July (since July 3rd, if you want to be technical. The link to your name offers "Find my posts" and only 1 post since July 3. The point was you have not stepped into these waters in many weeks. I was actually greeting you, though in a "poke-in-the-ribs" kind of way. Now it all adds up! LOL Got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) But in reality its decided between your healthcare provider and your healthcare provider. No. My health insurance company determines what they will pay for. Everything else is between me and "ole sawbones". I hope you haven't neglected to protect your rights before you surrendered them to insurance companies and the government. Edited August 2, 2011 by FiredMotorCompany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armstrong Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 No. My health insurance company determines what they will pay for. Everything else is between me and "ole sawbones". I hope you haven't neglected to protect your rights before you surrendered them to insurance companies and the government. Insurance companies are the largest legal organized crime syndicate in America 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Insurance companies are the largest legal organized crime syndicate in America Oh, I think government is right up there with insurance. Maybe fewer participants, but certainly they work on a much larger scale. And they get to enforce the rules as they see fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armstrong Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Oh, I think government is right up there with insurance. Maybe fewer participants, but certainly they work on a much larger scale. And they get to enforce the rules as they see fit. Government, Pharmaceuticals and Insurance are all a legalized crime syndicate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Government, Pharmaceuticals and Insurance are all a legalized crime syndicate I hear ya! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 (edited) HHS grants 106 new healthcare waivers Quote:The Obama administration granted another 106 waivers last month from part of the healthcare reform law — the first round of three-year waivers the Health and Human Services Department has approved. The new approvals bring the total number of waivers to 1,472, according to HHS. Those figures cover waivers granted through the end of July. HHS will stop granting new waivers after September. Some healthcare plans, usually offered to low-wage workers, place caps on how much the policy will pay out in benefits over a year. The healthcare reform law gradually bans those limits, but allows HHS to grant waivers to companies that would be more likely to stop offering coverage altogether than to provide more robust coverage. HHS has been approving a new batch of one-year waivers at the end of each month. The department announced it would cut off applications after September, but let companies that received one-year exemptions extend their waivers through 2014. The 106 waivers approved in July will last three years. Republicans say the waivers are proof that the healthcare law is flawed. End Quote. Edited August 22, 2011 by FiredMotorCompany 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 So how is the health care "system" working? "Medical Debt Cited More Often in Bankruptcies" http://bucks.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/18/medical-debt-cited-more-often-in-bankruptcies/?nl=your-money&emc=your-moneyema4 "Medical debt is increasingly a factor in personal bankruptcy filings, an analysis of data at a large credit-counseling agency finds. Roughly 20 percent of those seeking financial counseling this year and last cited medical debt as the primary cause of their decision to seek bankruptcy protection" Looks like a big drag on the possible prosperity of America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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