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#1 OFFLINE   Len_A

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 05:07 PM

From MarketWatch: Link Here

I thought it was an interesting, well thought out commentary.

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#2 OFFLINE   99ktpbirdman

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 05:48 PM

From MarketWatch: Link Here

I thought it was an interesting, well thought out commentary.

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 06:14 PM

From MarketWatch: Link Here

I thought it was an interesting, well thought out commentary.

I agree that is an interesting article but I am not an Obama fan either. This is the tuffest election in the history of our country. We got the shaft the last two elections and it looks like we will get it again.
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 08:08 PM

From MarketWatch: Link Here

I thought it was an interesting, well thought out commentary.


I thought the article was pretty biased, about what I would expect to read on the Huffington Post or the like. Mediocre? perhaps but compared to giving the far left loons absolute power in Washington, I'd take mediocre.
I did get a kick out of Obama's response to the Georgian invasion this week... "we need to get the UN security council involved" perhaps someone should tell Obama that Russia has veto power in the security council.

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 08:17 PM

I thought the article was pretty biased, about what I would expect to read on the Huffington Post or the like. Mediocre? perhaps but compared to giving the far left loons absolute power in Washington, I'd take mediocre.
I did get a kick out of Obama's response to the Georgian invasion this week... "we need to get the UN security council involved" perhaps someone should tell Obama that Russia has veto power in the security council.

Perhaps, but it's none-the-less interesting considering MarketWatch is owned by DowJones, and isn't the Huffington Post. Damn, I don't think you McCain supporters can stand any criticism of your candidate.

I got a kick out of Obama's response, too. Still wouldn't vote for McCain if you paid me.

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 08:17 AM

Perhaps, but it's none-the-less interesting considering MarketWatch is owned by DowJones, and isn't the Huffington Post. Damn, I don't think you McCain supporters can stand any criticism of your candidate.

I got a kick out of Obama's response, too. Still wouldn't vote for McCain if you paid me.

You wouldn't vote for McCain, but you will vote for someone who is endorsed Hamas, Louis Farakan, Fidel Castro and the communist party of america? Makes sense to me, NOT!!!!!!!
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Posted 13 August 2008 - 09:07 AM

You wouldn't vote for McCain, but you will vote for someone who is endorsed Hamas, Louis Farakan, Fidel Castro and the communist party of america? Makes sense to me, NOT!!!!!!!

Why anyone would vote for someone our enemies endorse is beyond me. When McCain gets Obama on the podium to debate the issues, "change and hope" better be backed up by some substance. My guess is it won't. I am not a huge fan of McCain either, but I am no where sold on the Obama glimmer. He is aboout socialism and wealth re-distrubution. What Idiot thinks that a windfall profits tax is going to do anything for us? It will put more money in the governments hands only so they can start another intitlement handout. Small government is what we need, these boneheads have never taken any program and turned it into something prosperous for the American people. God help us, if Obama gets in, your taxes will go up, you will be limited on the types of vehicles you drive, the things you do for fun, all because he thinks that the rest of the world pays 9 bucks a gallon for gas, so should we!!! And the rest of the world drives euro Focus's, so should we. Wake up, we are America, not the rest of the world! We didn't get to be the greatest country on the planet by being like everybody else, or by being liked by everybody else. Imagine if Henry Ford wasn't allowed to make as many cars as he wanted to, because the government decided that we should be buying the majority of our vehicles that were put on the market by countries who really don't have anything nice to say about us. Wonder why McCain can't get Obama on the stage for a good ole fashion debate, or even get a committment from him? It's because he knows that he will get his ass handed to him. If somebody wants to run on the idea that we can't handle 4 more years of Bush, my next question would be what will be done to change that. Be careful, the next 4 years under Obama could make the Bush 8 seem like a walk in the park

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 09:22 AM

I am writing in Bernacke the Fed Chairman.MAKE MORE MONEY!!!!!!!!!Len_A all politicians at that level take bribes.They all lie.It is the billionaires that run the world.That is why taxes keep getting shifted onto the middle-class and globalization is in full swing.My advice,own at least one shotgun.Just in case they aint always nice.

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 11:26 AM

From MarketWatch: Link Here

I thought it was an interesting, well thought out commentary.



There is nothing interesting or well thought out about it. I especially like the part where it's McCains fault (implication) that he was shot down. Just a bit of a stretch there and pretty disrespectful. Since you already made the statement you would never vote for a republican please do not try to pass off an opinionated hatchet job as any form of objective reading. Obama's your guy and good luck to you and others but I will take McCain over a black Jimmy Carter any day. McCain does not have all the answers but Obama does not have a clue.
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Posted 13 August 2008 - 12:06 PM

You wouldn't vote for McCain, but you will vote for someone who is endorsed Hamas, Louis Farakan, Fidel Castro and the communist party of america? Makes sense to me, NOT!!!!!!!

Cite your source, because most of what you claim has been disproved, and the only one that may not be disproved is a bit of a distortion. And that's being civil in my reply.

Edited by Len_A, 13 August 2008 - 12:58 PM.

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 12:23 PM

Why anyone would vote for someone our enemies endorse is beyond me. When McCain gets Obama on the podium to debate the issues, "change and hope" better be backed up by some substance. My guess is it won't. I am not a huge fan of McCain either, but I am no where sold on the Obama glimmer. He is aboout socialism and wealth re-distrubution. What Idiot thinks that a windfall profits tax is going to do anything for us? It will put more money in the governments hands only so they can start another intitlement handout. Small government is what we need, these boneheads have never taken any program and turned it into something prosperous for the American people. God help us, if Obama gets in, your taxes will go up, you will be limited on the types of vehicles you drive, the things you do for fun, all because he thinks that the rest of the world pays 9 bucks a gallon for gas, so should we!!! And the rest of the world drives euro Focus's, so should we. Wake up, we are America, not the rest of the world! We didn't get to be the greatest country on the planet by being like everybody else, or by being liked by everybody else. Imagine if Henry Ford wasn't allowed to make as many cars as he wanted to, because the government decided that we should be buying the majority of our vehicles that were put on the market by countries who really don't have anything nice to say about us. Wonder why McCain can't get Obama on the stage for a good ole fashion debate, or even get a committment from him? It's because he knows that he will get his ass handed to him. If somebody wants to run on the idea that we can't handle 4 more years of Bush, my next question would be what will be done to change that. Be careful, the next 4 years under Obama could make the Bush 8 seem like a walk in the park

McCain can't get Obama on the stage for a debate? Obama's campaign agreed to three standard debates in the fall, sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

Better be careful about what you wish for. McCain does well in town-hall style debates, but it's not a given that he has the upper-hand in that style of debate. Obama is reputed to be an excellent public speaker, out debated every Democrat he ran against, and seems to be able to connect with people on an individual basis. A town hall style debate is going to have to allow supporters of both McCain and Obama, to submit questions, and McCain can be baited. He has demonstrated that he has a temper, and won't come across well in a televised debate. McCain has also shown that he can flub facts - while on a visit in Iraq, he mixed up Sunni and Shite Muslims, and Joe Liberman, traveling with McCain, had to correct McCain, on camera. Between that occasional misstating of facts, and his occasional flash of temper, he could tank a town hall style debate just as easily as do well in that kind of debate.

There is nothing interesting or well thought out about it. I especially like the part where it's McCains fault (implication) that he was shot down. Just a bit of a stretch there and pretty disrespectful. Since you already made the statement you would never vote for a republican please do not try to pass off an opinionated hatchet job as any form of objective reading. Obama's your guy and good luck to you and others but I will take McCain over a black Jimmy Carter any day. McCain does not have all the answers but Obama does not have a clue.

You seriously need a drink, or to just calm down. I thought the part about McCain about McCain's being shot down was light compared to other things out there. McCain was involved in five situation where the Navy lost a plane. One not mentioned in that editorial involved a fire on the USS Forrestal which killed 134 sailors. One web site tries to put the blame on McCain's shoulders, but an examination of the facts proves so much of what they post is bullshit it's not funny. And while I'm not going to blame McCain for his being shot down, as a lot of good pilots were shot down, a Freedom of Information Act request for McCain's Navy record shows that a lot of instructors didn't think highly of his skills as a pilot, and some put in his record that had it not been for McCain's father being a four star, McCain's career as a Navy pilot would have been over well before he got to Vietnam.

Obama doesn't have a clue? McCain has admitted that economics isn't his strong suit. Like it or not, this is the choices we've got this election - tweedle dee or tweedle dumb. You vote your way, I'll vote mine, but I'll be damned if I won't post something about McCain because his supporters might get their noses bent out of joint over it.

Edited by Len_A, 13 August 2008 - 12:35 PM.

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 12:47 PM

I agree that is an interesting article but I am not an Obama fan either. This is the tuffest election in the history of our country. We got the shaft the last two elections and it looks like we will get it again.

Yea, it's amazing the kind of choices we get every election. What makes me laugh is how passionately people will latch on to one candidate, and the kind of kindergarten level muck they try to swing at the other candidate, and in this case, since Obama is, admittedly light on background to find dirt in, they come up with some of the most blatantly ignorant, uneducated, low class innuendo and outright garbage, it's not even funny. I watched, during the Ohio Democratic Primary or caucus, which ever it was, CBS's Steve Kroft interviewing a small group of voters, and one guy expressing his concern about Obama, over Clinton, repeat something as fact that was both disproved repeatedly, and also denounced by McCain personally. And when this was pointed out by Steve Kroft to be a falsehood, this gentleman remarks "Well, that's what I heard."

Christ-on-a-crutch, how about doing some objective research on your own, and discount any of the blatantly bigoted, partisan garbage that floats out there on the Internet and gets forwarded in emails over and over again. Damn, how hard can it be to recognize the whack jobs on both sides?

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 12:55 PM

I am writing in Bernacke the Fed Chairman.MAKE MORE MONEY!!!!!!!!!Len_A all politicians at that level take bribes.They all lie.It is the billionaires that run the world.That is why taxes keep getting shifted onto the middle-class and globalization is in full swing.My advice,own at least one shotgun.Just in case they aint always nice.

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 12:55 PM

I agree that is an interesting article but I am not an Obama fan either. This is the tuffest election in the history of our country. We got the shaft the last two elections and it looks like we will get it again.

I'm an Obama fan, McCain's agenda is a mirror image of bushes!
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Posted 13 August 2008 - 01:22 PM

I'm an Obama fan, McCain's agenda is a mirror image of bushes!

Something we agree on. Obama's background isn't as deep as I'd like, but it's an easy decision to make over McCain.

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 04:49 PM

Something we agree on. Obama's background isn't as deep as I'd like, but it's an easy decision to make over McCain.

McCain sucks but Obama sucks more.

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 05:15 PM

Two Candidates.

Pick one:

Candidate A: Middle-aged. Studied overseas. Attended two different colleges in the U.S. before getting a degree. Went on to get a law degree. Worked community affairs in his adopted home city. Was elected to local office. Served in local politics for just over six years. Got elected to a federal state-wide office. Has one real year of experience in that job.

Candidate B: Middle-aged. Went to college and got a degree. Served in the National Guard for six years. Became a sergeant. While in the National Guard, earned a law degree. Became an investigator for a consumer-protection division. Was elected to a federal office. Was re-elected to a federal office. Was elected to a federal statewide office. Was re-elected to a federal state-wide office. Served in the executive branch for four years.

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 05:19 PM

Answer below


Candidate A is Barack Obama.

Candidate B is Dan Quayle.

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 05:53 PM

He is aboout socialism and wealth re-distrubution. What Idiot thinks that a windfall profits tax is going to do anything for us?

You want to talk about wealth re-distribution? Huh? Huh?!!?? 'Cause just take a look at what's happened in this country in the 28 years since Reagan took office, made a brief back-tick during Clinton's last 2 years, then resumed again with a vengeance under Bush II: the complete rape of the middle class and money grab by the elites (and by elite, I mean the top 1%). Are you literate enough to look up census, Congressional Budget office, and OMB statistics about distribution of wealth trends over the last 28 years? You've got to be totally ignorant to even raise the subject of wealth re-distribution while supporting another 4 years of Republican administration. Go look up the numbers, then come back. You've got no no - absolutely no leg to stand on when it comes to talking about wealth re-distribution. That is a sore sore subject with me and with many others. Cry "class war" if you want. Class war has been going on for 28 years and we're pretty much fed up with it.

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Posted 13 August 2008 - 06:21 PM

We got the shaft the last two elections and it looks like we will get it again.


Make that the last four elections... :reading:

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