Anthony

Once they make a Ranger-sized pickup I will!

Sasquatch has its own too right?

The Edge really is the perfect-sized vehicle when you have 2 or fewer kids. Monstrous back seat, great storage, and is super comfy for front passengers as well. I hope that something similar sized is offered in the future.

Everest

I take back all my complaints about the fenders. I just watched Doug DeMuro’s review and seeing it “in person kinda” really shows it has much better integration than photos let on. It is totally fine. Also the big piece in the back isn’t really big. It actually follows the wheel arch the same width as the rest of the fender. The shape of the wheel arch and the back of the truck gives a weird perspective of making it look larger than it actually is.

I am not sure why they had to cover over half of the rear quarter with plastic. (I mean, I understand if they are making a tribute to 2000's Pontiacs <sarcasm>). I haven't read into the design aspect in articles, but was it mentioned if there is a functional reason for that? Don't get me wrong, the truck is awesome, but I do not like the overdone design of the fender extensions. I think (unless there is a functional reason for them to go so far upward into the body) they could have been incorporated a bit more elegantly.

It may not be the prettiest thing on 4 wheels, but it is BEEFY.

Bronco Raptor is incredible, but I am not feeling that rear wheel flare. The front one looks a bit goofy too the way it folds and continues into the body. I'm sure once I see one in person I'll completely forget about it, but just a first impression. Otherwise, great job as always Ford!

See a lot of Mach-E influence in the rear haunches (last two pics especially). "A little Mustang in everything we build"

Same design as seen in the previous leaks (obviously). Looks good if you ask me.

What? No Doug DeMuro? ?

Brampton was closed for weeks as well due to chip shortages. Regardless of the why, the lack of sales and the lack of priority these vehicles receive points out we are in the last years of traditional pony cars. Kind of a bummer, but Ford and to an extent Dodge, seem to always pull a rabbit out of their hats that get people excited again.

But that's the thing...we don't know. So to say the reason the Challenger outsold the Mustang purely because of chip supply is a bit of a stretch. After all, this was a global issue that could have easily affected both companies. Who knows? Maybe it was chips, maybe it was people wanting something with a V8 and a usable back seat or maybe it was none of the above. But I won't be making any assumptions in that regard. We just know the end result.

Dodge may only have 3 vehicles, but Stellantis has 15 brands (Dodge being one of them) and way more vehicles to spread the chips around. If anything they should be a worse place chip-wise than Ford. And I doubt the Challenger was a priority when deciding where chips were allocated, more like Ram and Jeep.

Why wouldn’t the Challenger be affected by that as well? Scroll up the page and look how Ford reports the Mustang and the Mach-E sales and get back to me on that.

Can you believe the Challenger was the top selling pony/muscle car last year? Mustang had its lowest sale year in its history. https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1134663_dodge-challenger-outsells-ford-mustang-in-2021 These types of cars only salvation may be going electric.

I actually don't think that looks bad at all...and I own one of the least flashy trucks you can buy.

Weird color choice to show off a car in. White is the worst color to show a car off with subtle and softer detailing. I found that out while researching history on my 2nd gen Firebird!

Don't be so sure. Just because you can make electric vehicles fast, does not mean manufacturers are going to make them fast. That's NOT the priority for most consumers. Range is. Does this look familiar? It should because it is pretty much the same separation you'd see on ICE vehicles today. Normal: A Chevy Bolt runs 0-60 in 6.3 seconds A Hyundai Ioniq runs 0-60 in 9.9 seconds A Nissan Leaf runs 0-60 in 8.8 seconds A Kia Niro Elec run 0-60 in 6.6 seconds Faster (Performance/premium orientated): Jaguar iPace runs 0-60 in 4.5 seconds BMW i8 runs 0-60 in 4.4 seconds Mustang Mach-E GT runs 0-60 in 3.8 seconds Fastest (Supercar): Tesla Model S Plaid runs 0-60 in 1.98 seconds Just because some amazing vehicles have come out that are electric doesn't mean that all electric cars are going to have that same kind of performance. There isn't a market for a 4-motor Nissan Leaf that can do the quarter-mile in 7 seconds. The biggest thing for Dodge will continue what they have been doing. Offering performance at a price that people can afford. Will there be other cars that are as fast or quicker? Of course. There is today. But their mission would be to find the sweet spot of performance, brashness in style, and perhaps offer 2 door to entice the current muscle car owners. We'll only know once they release a concept. But to think every BEV will be able to equal a Hellcat Demon is just not gonna happen. Performance for electric usually means more motors and bigger batteries, which means more price. Look up most non-performance orientated electric cars today and they have a similar performance to their ICE counterparts. Why? Because range will always be more important than performance to the vast majority of the buying public... that's why every car today doesn't have a twin-turbo V6 even though they could. Yes, there will always be a subset of performance vehicles, just as there is today, but that will always be the minority.

Yes, I assume there will be a difference in performance with EVs. Just like with ICE engines, the more performance you use, the less range you'll get. Additionally, many EVs won't have the rest of the platform built for speed or handling because for most people, there won't be a demand for it, and range is more important to them (think skinny, low rolling resistance tires, etc..). I think what you'll see is similar to ICE cars today. Normal commuters for normal people, pickups and SUVs, and more performance-orientated models. For every Tesla Model S Plaid, there will be 10,000 Hyundai Ioniq-type vehicles. Just like today. My Ranger can do 0-60 in the 6.X second range and 14.X quarter miles. That was Mustang GT times back in the '90s, but no one would equate a Ranger as being a performance vehicle by any stretch of the imagination. Times change and what is considered "fast" does too.

My Ranger (will be 3 years old next month) has been absolutely 100% perfect. No issues to speak of at all. One of the most reliable vehicles I've owned (especially coming from a Mk3 Focus)

Note: both overseas models....(note the missing wheel flares, different taillights, and tailgate on the current model in the above pic). But it gives you an idea of the changes involved. Very nice nip and tuck.

Yes, public chargers are a priority. But don't think about what we have now (with the infrastructure and existing industry we have now). EVs are legitimately going to create entire industries dedicated to electric car charging and infrastructure. The costs will quickly come down quickly while the consumer expectations of the availability of charging will rise. You will see more and more businesses and yes, apartments begin offering chargers to 1) make money 2) entice people to do business with them. As EVs become more prevalent, renters won't see chargers as a nicety or something only for high-end apartments... but instead, demand and require it. Legitimate apartment complexes with parking spaces? You'll absolutely see chargers. It won't stop there, I can also see urban centers eventually having chargers as common as parking meters or even combined. That's just how the world and infrastructure will evolve around need and convenience. If there's one thing humans excel at is designing more and more ways to do less by making things ridiculously convenient. Who would have thought 15 years ago we'd be talking to $29 speakers to do everything from telling us the weather to turning down the lights and changing the temperature in our homes because of convenience? Who would have thought 15 years ago that in-home streaming would destroy the DVD and rental industry because we want the convenience of not leaving our home to watch a movie? Who would have thought 15 years ago that we would destroy the mom and pop industry because we want the convenience of ordering stuff from our phones while sitting in our recliner and having it delivered to our doorstep the next day? I could go on... People are lazy. They won't go somewhere to charge something (unless we get it down to gas station time levels). But what will come first? The super-fast charging? Or the demand for convenience? I'll always put my money on people being inherently lazy.

I understand it needs to be done if the country and manufacturers are serious about going to EVs. Whether it is via subsidies or credits, it will eventually have to be done. And it really doesn't cost that much to install if you go with an existing partner... additionally, there are already grants and tax credits to cover the vast majority of construction costs, not to mention what is also coming with the infrastructure bill. Besides, it is also a revenue generator for whatever business installs it on their property. Pretty much a win/win for all involved.