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Ford’s website has this exact photo but still says Spring 2020.

Tremor was an odd choice for the F250 package name since it was first used on the F150 and the capabilities of the two packages are way different. F150 Tremor was meant to be like the old lightning for on the street fun. F250 Tremor is an off road package.

I forgot about the F250 Tremor package. That is exactly the type of package I would want to see on the F150.

My hopes for the 2021 model is that they release a trim level that is comparable to the Chevy Trail boss or the Ram Rebel. Something that comes from the factory with like a 2 inch lift/level, sportier grill, and upgraded wheels and tires. I realize there is the Raptor, but It would be nice to see something in between the Raptor and a regular F150 as far as capabilities and price.

Any additional info on what is going to change in the XLT?

I like what I am seeing!!! However, the knob under the air vent on the left side of the screen looks way out of place. Same on the right side with whatever that square is.

I agree. Sounds like something you would find in the tuner accessory aisle at AutoZone.

I like the new front end. It will be interesting to see if the embossed F-150 lettering stays on the tailgate. Looks like it maybe gone. Now I want to see the interior!

Looks like there will be a sport appearance package in 2021 to attract younger buyers per the article. https://www.motor1.com/news/396780/ford-explorer-xlt-sport-package/

Salesman called me last night on the Explorer to tell me Ford increased rebates in my region from $2750 to $3750 effective on 1/29. Rebates are good until 3/31. The region next to ours now has rebates of $5250 plus $1000 trade assist. That is a lot on money on the hood!!!

We also looked at a limited. You are right the on the inside the Palisade Limited is amazing compared to anything the Explorer offers at that price point. Heated and ventilated first and second row seats is crazy for $47k. Leather quality is beautiful.

I was discouraged to see Ford already increased some of the optional package prices. For instance the comfort package went from $715 to $825. Tow package from $710 to $795. If they are doing this already I don’t see them lowering the MSRP any time soon. I could see rebates being increased. However my region already has $2750 and the region nearby is already at $4250 in rebates with $1000 additional in trade assist. These already seem significant. Telluride supply is low in my area but selling for MSRP. Palisade doesn’t seem to be as hot. Dealers in my area are already advertising discounts (Roughly $1k) off MSRP.

XLT fits our budget. Limited would be pushing near $54k after you add 4wd and a tow package. I don’t expect a luxury interior at the XLT trim but for the money it is eye opening what Hyundai and Kia offer. Then you add their length of warranty on top of it. With all of the issue my 2017 F150 has been in the shop with in the first three years and 30k miles, length of warranty is now important to me. Just found out today one of the rear door handles is no longer working so back it goes again.

Explorer $47k MSRP ( Before rebates and discount) Palisade $38K MSRP

The wife and I are currently looking at three row SUVs. It will be her daily vehicle. I currently drive a 17' F150 XLT and her a 12' Fusion SE. My local dealership sells both Ford and Hyundai. Here is our story of checking out the Explorer and Palisade this past Saturday. We first checked out the Explorer XLT, black interior with captains chairs. In regards to interiors I was fine with it. The hard plastics everywhere didn't bother me because that is what my truck has. All my wife said was " It's OK" when it came to the interior not showing any emotion at all. One thing alarming is when you sat in either of front seats in made a creaking sound. We may be from Wisconsin but we aren't over weight We then checked out the Palisade SEL with black cloth. My wife was all smiles when she sat in the Palisade. Her words: " Whoaaa you have to see this" , "Look at all this space", "Come check this out", "These captain chairs are way more comfortable", "This feels so high end" . I will be honest, I was impressed with the interior as well except the push button gear selector. She went from no emotion looking at the Explorer to excitement when it came to the Palisade. We have always owned Fords......but that may change soon.