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20 hours ago, 1984Poke said:
$2.47/gallon for 87 octane E-10 Phillips 66 gasoline in northern Oklahoma. $3.09/gallon for "no E" (no ethanol) 87 octane.
It's $2.39/gallon for 87 octane E-10 gas at the same location now (Saturday, 6 Jan 24).
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$2.47/gallon for 87 octane E-10 Phillips 66 gasoline in northern Oklahoma. $3.09/gallon for "no E" (no ethanol) 87 octane.
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$2.459/gallon for 87 octane (E-10) Phillips 66 gasoline in north central Oklahoma today (as of Monday, 6 Nov 23). It's been coming down a few cents/gallon every few days for 2 or 3 weeks now.
Tuesday: $2.419/gallon for E-10 87 octane here now. It's $3.199 for 87 pure gasoline (not E-10).
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Well, the 2023 Escape PHEV that I ordered on the 10th of January [and about which I've heard no news from Ford other than (1) an initial acknowledgment of the order back in January and (2) an email last week saying, essentially, "we know you're waiting for your Escape but we have no news for you other than we'll contact you every 45 days to let you know that we still haven't scheduled it"] qualifies for the $3,750 tax credit. That's something, I guess, presuming I ever actually get it....?
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1 hour ago, silvrsvt said:
Depending on where your located-it took less then two weeks to get my Bronco last May.
I had my SHO show up in a few days back 2013 from Chicago to where I used to live in Maryland.
I ordered a PHEV Escape on 10 January 2023, and I presume there are a lot of orders in line ahead of mine, thus I presume it will be a while before I get mine, but I'm always hopeful!!
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52 minutes ago, jasonj80 said:
Looks like the okay to ship has been given, seeing car haulers full of 2023 Escapes on 69 and 65 on the way to Nashville.
That's great news. Maybe I'll get mine by May or June . . . . ?
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Well, according to the Ford Authority web site, the Louisville Assembly Plant resumed production of 2023 MY Escapes and Corsairs earlier this week, doing so after concluding that the instrument cluster software issue that had bedeviled them had been resolved finally.
The article said that about 4,400 pre-production Escapes (and about 400 Corsairs) had been built in January and February before production was halted while they worked to resolve problems.
My question for someone in the know about such things: Just out of curiosity, what are "pre-production" vehicles and what happens to them?
I presume some are used for testing (to get EPA mileage numbers, for IIHS crash testing, etc.), yes? What happens to the rest? Are they modified (if/as needed) and then sold? Are they destroyed (if so, that seems like a whole lot of vehicles to destroy)? I really don't know so I'm asking those of you who do know. Thanks.
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If I remember correctly, today (Monday, 6 March 2023) is the day the Louisville Assembly Plant was to start (resume?) production of 2023 Ford Escapes and Lincoln Corsairs.
Can anyone confirm whether that is happening? Or am I mistaken about the date? Thank you in advance.
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17 hours ago, tarheels23 said:
I have some F stock and used one in 2012 for my C-Max and would be happy to help but I don't know the steps necessary. Please DM me and I will try to help and if others on the board can offer suggestion on how to do please chime in.
ETA: of course DM from OP
I have had Ford stock for years and used an X plan PIN to get my most recent vehicle (2019 MKZ-h) but, a couple months ago, when I was looking to get another PIN as I was in the market for a new vehicle, I found that getting an X plan PIN based on stock ownership went away last year (June, I think) and if you had a PIN, you had to use it by 31 December 2022.
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I completely missed (until this morning) this bit of news, on Ford Authority, about Ford closing the order banks for 2023 PHEV Escapes in late January.
https://fordauthority.com/2023/01/2023-ford-escape-phev-retail-order-banks-to-close-next-week/
I presume that the order I placed on 10 January 2023 for a 2023 PHEV Escape is unaffected by this development. I received an email from Ford that same day saying it had received my order.
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1 hour ago, tbone said:
I would rather them stop production and get it right than having customers come back to the dealership. Maybe quality can be Job 1.
I agree with you about preferring the plant stop production for a few days to sort out/correct the problem rather than send vehicles out with a known glitch that will only irritate the owners of those brand-new vehicles and require a trip to the dealership for a fix.
I would say that Ford needs to make quality "Job 1" for every vehicle and at every assembly plant. (I know...easy to say but hard to do.)
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Thanks to all for your responses.
So...the question remains: Has the Louisville Assembly Plant been producing Escapes and Corsairs the last week or two?
And is it expected to produce vehicles this upcoming week?
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On 2/10/2023 at 6:08 PM, rrandall0213@gmail.com said:
There was another launch update issued by the plant manager a few days ago. I haven’t been able to find it online yet. Hopefully someone leaks it soon.
Serious question for anyone who knows: Is info on when an assembly plant is in operation and producing vehicles vs. when it is idle and not producing vehicles considered proprietary corporate information the automaker does not want publicly disclosed? It seems to me (an outsider) that it would be rather obvious when a plant is producing vehicles as opposed to when it is idle. If nothing else, the employee parking lot would be full or mostly empty.
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Well, my order history for a 2023 PHEV Escape is as follows:
10 January 2023: Placed an order for a 2023 PHEV Escape at local Ford dealership
10 January 2023: Order confirmation email received from Ford Motor Company
That's it. ? My order was placed exactly one month ago today, thus my history is not as long as yours, Exit32, but I hope you get good news on your Corsair soon.
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Can anyone who works at the Louisville Assembly Plant tell us if the plant is in operation, producing Escapes and Corsairs this week?
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On 2/4/2023 at 9:01 AM, T-dubz said:
Exactly, and Ford is terrible at putting packages together. Look at the Bronco for example. You have to get the most expensive package just to add the wireless charger, something that is included in the cheapest option package on most other vehicles.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Speaking as a guy who is currently on his 5th consecutive new Lincoln, I regret to say there will not be a 6th consecutive new Lincoln for me. That disappoints me immensely but the reason is that Lincoln has driven me away with its feature-packaging choices.
I want a 2023 Lincoln Corsair Grand Touring PHEV, I really do, but Lincoln insists that I must accept an all-glass roof (the Panoramic Vista Roof) on even the base-level Grand Touring Corsair.
I'm not cheap. The glass roof is not a cost issue for me. It's an issue of living where there are lots of strong thunderstorms with occasionally large hail. (My MKS took at absolute beating from a big hailstorm a few years ago, and I'm lucky that my current MKZ-h just avoided a similar hail-beating last year.)
I would happily buy a PHEV Grand Touring Corsair with pretty much all the "bells and whistles" (HUD, super adjustable seats, navigation, super duper audio, massaging seats, etc.) but not if it means I have to accept that stupid all-glass roof.
I ended up ordering a 2023 Ford Escape PHEV last month, even though it's not what I really want (I want a Grand Touring Corsair), but on the Escape, you can add all the options you want while the "panoramic" roof/all-glass roof remains an option that one can skip--which I did.
Clearly, the Louisville plant is capable of building Corsairs without the all-glass roof. On the Reserve Corsair (the next-lower model, below the Grand Touring), the all-glass roof is an option.Lincoln lost me as a customer because of this. ☹️
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1 hour ago, Shanej830 said:
If I had last five of ur vin prob could. If it linc or escape
Thanks for offering to try but I've not yet been issued a VIN. I placed my order, for a 2023 PHEV Escape, on 10 January 2023.
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3 hours ago, Shanej830 said:
When on full production usually 1500 to 1600 per day.
Is there a way to get a ballpark estimate on the number of '23 Escapes and Corsairs currently on the books, waiting to be built?
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3 hours ago, Shanej830 said:
Yes went back 19th we ran 250 to 300 that week. The following week did the same until Wed. Short shift Wed and Thurs and no production fri. The VP came to the plant and stop production due vendor issues with quality of parts we have received. Gave the vendor this present weekend to solve the issues we are having for the units to pass pre-roll. As for this coming week I haven't received any information at this time for production to be delayed yet again.
The linc in the new red color and black out package will knock your eyes out. Very sharp and st line escape major improvement. They are very sharp as well with the 20inch wheels, inside and out.
Thanks for the info, Shanej830. I hope production can resume soon!
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3 hours ago, Exit32 said:
Yet another production delay for my wife's 2023 Corsair Reserve. For the record, here's the timeline thus far:
21-Sep-2022: Order placed at local Lincoln dealership
21-Sep-2022: Order confirmation received from Lincoln
17-Nov-2022: Scheduled for production week of 09-Jan-2023
17-Nov-2022: VIN assigned: 5LMCJ2DA1PULxxxxx
21-Nov-2022: Priority Code changed from 19 to 02 by Lincoln
21-Nov-2022: Subwoofer delete confirmed; $250 price reduction
10-Jan-2023: Production delayed until week of 23-Jan-2023
17-Jan-2023: Production delayed (again) until week of 06-Feb-2023
25-Jan-2023: Production delayed (again) until week of 13-Feb-2023
Searching online, I can't find an in-stock 2023 Corsair anywhere. I don't think they exist yet.
I saw something on Facebook yesterday or the day before that purported to be a type of "welcome back" notification, dated 19 January 2023, from the manager of the assembly plant in Louisville KY. It indicated the plant would start production of '23 Escapes and Corsairs very soon and expressed his hopes the plant would produce high quality vehicles for Ford's and Lincoln's customers.
Presuming that was legitimate, it seems to indicate that '23 Escapes and Corsairs should start rolling out the factory doors any day now. I hope so.
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On 1/21/2023 at 6:55 PM, jpd80 said:
The only two electric Lincolns that Ford has planned for North America ate “Navigator” and “Aviator”, no Nautilus or Corsair. So Lincoln dealers are being asked to spend a million bucks to gear up for two utilities, so no wonder joint Ford/Lincoln dealerships are salivating at the idea…
Perhaps so, although isn't it Lincoln's intention to electrify (eventually) all its future vehicles--the one being teased in TV commercials lately as well as other new Lincoln vehicles that, presumably, are coming for the North American market?
If your point is that Lincoln is taking its sweet time (that is, taking too long) to get more electric vehicles in showrooms, I would agree with you about the understandable reluctance of Lincoln dealers to shell out large bucks in the near term to meet Lincoln Motor Company's requirement.
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2 hours ago, escape20 said:
I got my scheduling email today
Week of March 20th
Vin A311**
Ordered December 28
ST Elite Hybrid
Vapor blue
Block heater
Panoramic roof
Floor liners
19" Ebony painted Alum wheels
Premium Technology Package
45,005 MSRP
Dealer is discounting about 1500 because i am a 20 year customer
I was shocked i was scheduled so fast with a Hybrid
My dealer must have a good allocation'
Congratulations on the notification email on your Escape's upcoming manufacture scheduling.
I ordered an Escape on 10 January 2023, which is not very long after you placed your order in late December. I hope I'll hear something in a couple weeks on an expected timeframe for mine to be built, too (although I'm not holding my breath; I doubt I'll benefit from the type of good scheduling allocation you're expecting from your dealer).
Still, congratulations!
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1 hour ago, armyb77 said:
We just got our production date today 13 March 2023! We ordered ours the first day it was available. I do not see the Hands free liftgate, but it was part of our original order. Will we get a rebate or something since it is not what we ordered? We did not get contacted for any changes or anything.
What did you order, an Escape or a Corsair? In either case, congratulations on getting a production date.
Others on here, people who are industry insiders, are likely to give you a more-informed answer than I can but, based on what I've read here, if a feature is deleted from your order by the assembly plant, that deletion will be noted on your window sticker and some kind of price reduction will reflect that deletion.
I've heard that the hands-free lift gate has been a casualty of the shortage of computer chips for others, but I hope not for you.
For your sake (as well as mine, as I ordered a 2023 Escape PHEV just last week), I hope there won't be any deletions! Good luck.
Sore Subject... What are the fuel prices in your area?
in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
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$2.80/gallon (actually, $2.799) for 87 octane E-10 Phillips 66 gasoline in northern Oklahoma when I filled up a couple days ago. I forgot to notice how much the "no E" (no ethanol) 87 octane was.