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msm859

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    2014 Corvette

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  1. msm859

    2020 Corvette revealed

    Well that might be interesting. My first 3 Vettes were all convertibles. My C7 is a coupe. May be. tough - the exposed engine looks pretty sweet on the coupes.
  2. msm859

    2020 Corvette revealed

    Those are very typical sales numbers for generations of Corvette. They fall off near the end of a generation 2012 - 2013 and spike when the new generation comes out - 2014. You will see the same pattern every time. Actually that is the standard coupe. They all come with a targa roof.
  3. msm859

    2020 Corvette revealed

    The biggest complaint with the C8 is the lack of a manual transmission. All 4 of mine have been manuals, so I understand the concern. They are presently still building the C7 and will have plenty of stock for those who don't want to make the leap to the ME C8. And actually GM has been plyaing with the idea of a ME for decades. The rumor was the C7 was to have made the switch but got cancelled after GM went bankrupt.
  4. msm859

    2020 Corvette revealed

    It looks like GM took a page out of the Porsche handbook. They have a configurator up that you can design your C8. Looks like one of the most customizable Corvettes in a long time. They have a lot of "candy" options that I suspect will have high margins and should make GM some decent profit. LED lighting for the engine compartment with some carbon fiber trim pieces, 3 seat types, 3 interior levels, multiple colors, carbon fiber trim pieces inside and out, on and on. The base price is probably just a teaser, average sales price will be interesting.
  5. msm859

    2020 Corvette revealed

    Actually I think the big problem is a number of people were arguing the C8 would be over $100k because all other mid engine high performance cars were over $100k. However, when you break it down by materials the only real thing adding costs is the DCT. There was no reason for the C8 to costs over $100k. This was a big argument on the Corvette Forum for the last year. I had said is would start below $65k, so GM did do a good job at holding costs. They will ramp up production the first year to get back the R&D - which is another reason Corvettes are value priced. They can amortize costs over a greater volume. (I also think they advertised hiring extra shift well in advance because of the blow back they were getting for closing other plants). First year sales will be great and they will slowly decline over the run of this generation with upticks on new models - Z06, GS, ZR1 etc. I have ordered my last 3 and will probably do the same here and do another Factory Delivery. You get a private tour of the factory, go across the street and get a private tour of the museum and at the end is your car sitting on display and you drive it off. Great experience for any car enthusiasts.
  6. msm859

    2020 Corvette revealed

    That's all good. I was just responding to the comment that the Ford GT beats the Corvette in revenue per vehicle - not the most important metric.
  7. msm859

    2020 Corvette revealed

    Except in the last 15 years GM has probably sold 100x's as many Corvettes. The real question is which car has made more profit for its manufacturer.
  8. msm859

    2020 Corvette revealed

    Actually I believe new Vettes sell to younger people today. Bought my first one 18 years ago - in my 40's. Still married, never wore a gold chain, not too bad of shape. The C7 I currently drive has garnered more attention than any of the prior 3 owned and by a full range of demographics. My 11 year old granddaughter loves for me to take her to school and all her classmates love the car. We watched the reveal together and she was asking if I was buying it - so she could have my old one lol. Bang for the buck nothing touches it. I have owned 3 Mustangs, 4 Corvettes and 5 Ford trucks. No reasons to be "partisan" just buy what fits the best for your life style.
  9. msm859

    2020 Corvette revealed

    With Z51 package 0-60 is under 3 seconds. Base starts under $60k. Looks are subjective - not completely in love with the side scoops - but will be better in a black car. I will be waiting to see what the Z06 package has to offer before buying.
  10. msm859

    Aviator GT Order

    Hey go big or go home. Actually good news is my garage had not been completely rocked yet so it was pretty easy to add. I suspect at some point in the future I will probably have 2 plug in somethings with a full BEV so might as well be prepared to make it convenient. I was finally finishing my dream garage - polished floors, built in cabinets, tool wall, power storage racks, etc.
  11. msm859

    Aviator GT Order

    Agreed. I brought in a new 125 amp sub panel in my garage for 2 separate 50 amp outlets, pretty nominal costs so it should not cost too much for them to add chargers. As to my local dealer I am still waiting on the GT specs and if enough will have to compare interiors on the Reserve II in black vs the BL Flight Theme.
  12. msm859

    Aviator GT Order

    Okay. Sounds reasonable. The local dealer is a Ford/Lincoln dealership so it seems like a nominal price to pay. Wonder if that will be the same for all of the future PHEV's in the Ford stable. If so it becomes a no brainer.
  13. msm859

    Aviator GT Order

    So I was doing a build on the Lincoln web site and when I went for the Grand Touring it changed the Lincoln dealership to the "Closest AVIATOR EV-Authorized Dealer" -74 miles away - as opposed to the Lincoln dealer in town. So do you have to buy a GT from an "EV Authorized Dealer"? The closest Black Label dealer is 103 miles away - if you want the BL. Is Lincoln trying to make it hard to buy their cars?
  14. msm859

    Aviator GT Order

    Same dilemma I have with the BL - and the BL dealer for me is over 100 miles away as well. That is why I will need to see in person, I love the look of the flight theme but need to see if black will work - exterior will be black.
  15. msm859

    Aviator GT Order

    Must be a geographical thing. There are so many in California it is a non issue. They just put a super station in my little city in Northern California. And with a 300 mile + range should not generally be an issue. Rumor is the S will soon actually have a 400 mile range.
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