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phil1336

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  1. Been waiting almost 3 months for a Special Order Transit 250 Medium Roof in Black to get built. When will Kansas City Plant get back online. Looks like a 5 month wait?
  2. Brought my EcoSport to Dealer to checkout Audio issues with (pop) sound and change of FM to AM when engine restarted. They did a Radio re-boot and ran some diagnostic tests. Re-programmed as Service Bulletin recommended and issue appears to be resolved. The "On-Off" Engine feature was explained that if AC is set on "Max" setting, it automatically shuts off the "On-Off" setting to compensate. Setting AC to Cold regardless of recirculate or outdoor air blend no matter Fan output, solves the mystery. The "On-Off" technology appears to do nothing to improve the dismal Fuel Economy though. Perhaps the new Escape Hybrid will be the end of this EcoSport disastrous experiment. I'm sure its residual trade-in value will be "Huge", lol.
  3. It appears that my 2018 Ford EcoSport has a new issue with its high tech Engine On-Off Technology where the engine runs constantly regardless where the Default Override Button is pushed? Another odd phenomenon is that when the Vehicle is started, about 50% of the time, a loud "Thud" sound happens and causes the Radio so switch from the previous FM Station to somewhere on the AM band? Need to push the Music Icon Button on the Radio to return to the previous FM Station. Software issue, perhaps?
  4. Forget the "Donut" option for a Spare Tire on the EcoSport. Mustang early 90`s and early Focus had 4 Lug Rims that will work.
  5. My 2018 Ford EcoSport in Base "S" Trim with 14K miles driven in the past 15 months of ownership gets a combined City/Highway 26 MPG. For a Mini-CUV with a 1 Ltr. 3 Cyl Engine, IMO is sub-par to say the least, Of course I'm comparing this Vehicle with the one I traded in, a 2015 Ford C-Max that got 37 MPG City/Highway from day 1 until it was traded in. Much bigger, more comfortable, and vastly quicker Vehicle with (Zero) service issues. Depending on the price point of the 2020 Ford Escape Hybrid compared to what the C-Max ran, that might be this EcoSports replacement, the sooner the better.
  6. I stand corrected! I got those numbers off the Honda HR-V Blog a few weeks ago when (someone) supposedly got this imformation from a Honda Dealer (before) Honda released its 2019 Prices an before the 2019 Honda HR-V`s hit the Dealers lot. Actually, I was expecting a more significant refresh. My 2017 Honda HR-V doesn't look totally dated. I am a Ford enthusiast, have been so since 1963, before Cell Phones an MP3. The Honda HR-V is no doubt the smarter choice then the Ford EcoSport at this price point. Superior Fuel Economy an more importantly, much better Re-Sale residual value. 6 months out and I have seen a total of "2" EcoSports on the road in SE FL? Hopefully, Ford is having better luck getting them off the lot in other parts of the country.
  7. Thank that I think anyone on this Site cares or is curious (but) Honda`s "Refreshed" 2019 HR-V`s Base Model has done almost 5K! My 2017 ran 20K in Base LX Trim. Its replacement does have a few added gadgets an add on but a $5000 jump? Value shoppers in the Baby CUV Market might start looking elsewhere despite being as Loyal or more so to Hondaas Appleheads are to Apple Products.
  8. Update on that RPM rating traveling at 75 MPH recently on I75 from Ft Lauderdale over to Naples, FL. Closer to 2600-2700 RPM. This Engine was too small for its weight an poor aerodynamics. Ford should upgrade quickly to a slightly larger EcoBoost Engine for 2019 MY.
  9. One of my Neighbors just traded in his 2 year old Jeep Renegade for a 2018 VW Tiguan Limited Compact CUV. Has a 2.0 ltr. 4 cyl engine with AT. EPA Fuel Economy on MSRP was to say the least, "Shocking". 20 MPG City an 26 MPG Highway. Guess the EcoSport has it beat on Fuel Economy. Priced similar to EcoSport SE as well.
  10. Your pretty close. 2200-2300 RPM between 70 & 75 MPH. Hope Ford introduces more of its Vehicle line to Diamond White to replace Oxford White. A much softer more luxurious White Paint IMO if you choose not to go to the Tri-Coat Metallic White upgrade.
  11. They are certainly not obligated to do anything whatsoever. That said, this Mini-Sport Utility Vehicle was Marketed to fill the void in Ford`s line up to compete in this currently popular sector. True, their Posted EPA Fuel Economy number were accurate. Life long Ford Buyers like myself with decades of loyalty had simple hoped for at least a marginal boost in Fuel Economy. I don't need nor want a Ford 150 Pickup Truck even if it delivered better Fuel Economy. Common sense would lead someone to anticipate that an EcoSport would be more fuel efficient then a heavier larger displacement Vehicle be it a Car or Truck. I have already beat this to death an will not add any further comment to this "Thread". One Positive attribute I should mention, the EcoSport A/C Unit is by far the best performing HVAC System that I have ever experienced in any Vehicle regardless of Brand. 94` F an near 100% Humidity in Mid-Day Florida Sun an it blows Ice Cold Air out of all vents. Only thing missing would be (micro-ice-chips) mixed with the frigid air flow. They got that right, spot on!
  12. Ford should take a cue from what Kia did with its newly launched 2012 Rio in the Fall of 2011. Huge build up of new advanced state of the art Auto Transmission an a brand new GDI 1.6 L 4 Cyl Engine. The Hatchback wasn't` a bad looking B-Segment Sub Compact especially in Hatchback configuration. Kia (as well as Hyundai ) with their identical Accent boasted excellent performance, handling and braking in a under 15K Vehicle. The car was actually not all that bad, (except) deplorable Fuel Economy. EPA rated at 30-32 MPG City and 40 MPG Highway with an average somewhere in between. In real time, 24-26 MPG City and 28-30 MPG Highway, "Max". Just like Ford did with its C-Max Hybrid, both Kia & Hyundai sent Cash back to buyers an those that Registered their Vehicles an came back once a year to a Kia or Hyundai Dealership, for the entire life of Ownership got a Pre-Paid Credit Card based on the Miles driven that year. I got checks from $70 to $90 every year depending on how much or little I drove that year. Perhaps Ford should consider doing something similar to appease Buyers with disappointing Fuel Economy. To Ford`s credit, unlike Kia an Hyundai that falsified the EPA Numbers, Ford pretty much put on the EcoSports MSRP the expected Fuel Economy. Wishful thinkers like myself figured that it just (had) to be better then what was Posted. I repeat, other then the ridiculous poor Fuel Economy, I'm pretty pleased with my "Baby Escape". I seriously doubt any re-engineering "tweaking" on the EcoSport via Tuning or changing Transaxle Gearing would do little to improve the MPG significantly. It is what it is.
  13. I agree. Common sense would lead someone to believe otherwise but I guess size doesn't matter at least when it comes to Fuel Economy. Years ago, Vehicle size & weight coupled with Engine displacement equalled MPG, obviously no longer. Guess I simple got spoiled with my 5 years of C-Max Hybrid experience.
  14. Guess that proves that EPA Scott Pruitt in right? No need to regulate CAFE Industry standards since its been proven that a heavier vehicle with a larger engine gets better fuel economy. Wish that worked for me. The more Beer I drank, the more weight I would loose.
  15. I would be very please too getting that Fuel Economy with a 4 cyl. 2 L Engine. No so much with a 3 cyl 1 L Engine.
  16. I agree. Perhaps 30 or more years ago when New Cars needed a "Break in period" where speed should be moderated as well as braking for (X) amount of miles, Engines might have settled into their comfort zones after 6000 to 10,000 miles were driven. Now New Vehicle`s are machined an made with such close tolerances that Owners Manuals don't even suggest driving a certain way for X amount of miles. I believe its about time to put this old Wives Tale to rest, once an for all. It is what it is. Great Fuel economy to begin with usually stays steady through the entire period of Ownership. Poor Fuel economy, bad to begin with, likewise is there to stay as well. I'm glad that I'm basically happy about most other aspects of my EcoSport experience with the sole exception having poor Fuel Economy. Previously posted my dismay about not having a CD Player any longer nor Sirius Satellite Radio available in a 20K Base Model Vehicle but that too is the way it is. Glad I seldom keep a New Car much longer then 3 or 4 years so we will see what`s available then. I suggest to potential EcoSport Buyers, Lease or keep looking!
  17. I take acceptation to the "theory" that 8,000 or 10,000 Break In Miles is necessary to qualify true Fuel Economy numbers. I Special Ordered a 2011 Ford Fiesta Hatchback in late Winter of 2010. I also ordered it with a Power Moonroof which was supposed to be "Late Delivery" but arrived on the first Car Transporter Truck that dropped the initial load of Fiesta`s in July of 2011 at my Dealer. I drove this Vehicle 5 years an put on almost 50K mileage. With the supposed problematic PowerShift Getrag Automatic Transmission, this Car from day 1 got 36 MPG City an a 41-43 MPG Highway until the day I traded it in July of 2015 for a 15` Ford C-Max SE Hybrid. Never had a bit of trouble with that Vehicle. Yeah, it did have an occasional shutter or glitch finding the right gear occasionally but not often. When they said they had a (Patch) that once installed, couldn't be removed, I opted to leave everything as is because of the great Fuel Economy. Same with my 2015 Ford C-Max, from day 1 until I traded it in this past Feb for the Ford EcoSport, Fuel Economy never changed. I was told to drive the C-Max like it had a raw egg under the accelerator pedal to get optimum fuel economy an maintain Highway speed between 50 & 55 MPH. Seriously, on the Highways of Florida? You would be given a Ticket for driving too Slow. One should not have to wait for a years worth of mileage or driving with a (feather foot) to obtain decent Fuel Economy.
  18. Can't find any fault so far with the Honda`s HR-V CVT yet. True, no defined shift patterns but unless your obsessed with "Paddle Shifting" from your Steering Wheel, all that important?
  19. Curious what the Sales figures are for all the Small CUV`s in their Class. Buick Encore, Chevy Trax, Mazda CX3, Jeep Renegade, Honda HR-V, an last but hopefully not least, our beloved EcoSport experiment? Other then possibly the Buick Enclave, I'm quite sure the Honda HR-V is devouring everyone else Lunch. When Honda does a complete Make-over/ Facelift in 2019 or 2020, it will no doubt get another significant "bump".
  20. Assuming that is the case, which one came in the Ford C-Max Hybrid an which is in the Honda HR-V?
  21. Since I have experience with both variants, what is the difference. Both seems to operate similar?
  22. Well, while we are discussing Small CUV`s an their Fuel Economy, I have in my driveway a 2017 Honda HR-V. Similar size Vehicle size with much better Rear Seat Configuration options as well as a (huge) 4 cyl Engine compared to my EcoSport. The Honda perhaps because of its much maligned CVT gets almost 30 MPG City and 33 MPG Highway. My Former Ford C-Max SE Hybrid, one of the (Best) Vehicles I have ever owned, trouble free an got almost 40 MPG both City an Highway also had the dreaded CVT Transmission which I personally never had issue with. I'm not "Bashing" Ford! I have bought over 15 New Ford Vehicles in my lifetime. I am a Ford Shareholder as well. Loyalty to a Brand can only go so far when common logic says, something is very wrong ae: EcoSport Fuel Economy. Other then that, I actually prefer the EcoSport over the HR-V. No issue either that someone brought up about difficulty staying centered in a Highway or Street Lane? With new protective Tarriffs that have or are about to be put in place (India) I'm sure not excluded, that $19,995 MSRP on a EcoSport "S" Trim will soon go poof! Perhaps the 2019 EcoSport soon to reach JOB1 Status may indeed be the end of this experiment. Ford arrived late at the CUV Party an perhaps should have mailed in their R.S.V.P. an simply declined. I suspect that some kind of similar configuration in the next generation Focus will politely let the EcoSport leave North America without a lot of fanfare. Hope I'm wrong because the residual Value will make me greatly regret not opting for the Lease Option. PS: Wouldn't you know it, just a day after declaring I have yet to see a single EcoSport on the roads of South FL, today I saw my first. S Trim like mine in Charcoal Grey with Stone Interior. The one thing Ford did get right is offering finally another Standard White Paint option other then Oxford White! My EcoSport in Diamond White with Stone Interior looks great.
  23. Well, I've owned my 2018 Ford EcoSport almost 5 months now taking delivery on Feb 1,18 an driven about 3400 miles so far. Took a shot an purchased the EcoSport without any reviews except negative ones posted by Foreign Owners outside of North America. I must say, despite the fact that I have seen a total of (Zero) EcoSports on the roads of South FL, I'm not sure whether Ford will continue the effort to establish this Model for the NA Market. I am pleased with the build quality, fit, finish, an general craftsmanship despite the fact it was assembled in India. I purchased the base Model in "S" Trim with a 20K MSRP. Upgrading to SE, Titanium etc is ridiculous. No matter how many bells an whistles you add, its a 20K vehicle, period! My main gripe is the poor unacceptable fuel economy. True, Ford posted EPA numbers indicating such. Perhaps considering the Gasoline cost difference of several hundreds of dollars a year compared to another Vehicle in its Class is not all that important. What is? I just finished a 6 day Car Rental of a 2017 Ford Taurus Limited with a 3.5 L V6 Engine that produced "Better" Fuel Economy then a 1 L 3 Cyl EcoSport Engine, seriously? Almost 1000 miles driven from Burlington VT to Ottawa & Montreal with both Highway and Stop & Go City driving an it averaged 27 MPG! How a Full Size Ford Taurus with a huge V6 Engine can deliver better fuel economy is preposterous! Ford better hurry to tweak its Baby Escape quickly before it has another Edsel on its hands.
  24. Rich B. My issue is that if Hyundai an Kia can put both a CD Player & Sirius Satellite Radio into a 12K Accent or Rio, why the Hell can`t Ford put either one or the other or (both) in Vehicles that start at 20K!
  25. Purchasing several dozen "New" Ford Vehicles over the past decades an more recently since the advent of Satellite Radio it always confused me why Ford refuses to include the Sirius/XM Module into its entire line of Audio Systems. Cost can't be that much of a factor once the switch is made for the minimal cost of both the component an the antenna. I'm sure that Sirius/XM which usually includes a Free Trial Period 5-6 months would (if necessary) share some of the costs to possibly secure a larger Subscriber Base. If Hyundai with its Base Model Accent an Kia with its Base Model Rio have made Sirius as Standard Equipment for years, why deny Ford Buyers who choose Base Trim Vehicles not to have this added feature as Standard Equipment especially now that they have decided to eliminate the CD Players from their Audio Units. Perhaps its the same stuborness that Ford has had making at least Programable Daytime Running Lights Standard on its entire Fleet as well until the recent slow transition?
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