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  1. CR has heavily influenced us on many things. Their surveys from actual owners of things can't be beat and generally track what other surveys say about the vehicles. Outside of Alfa and Maserati what is so sexy about the Italian designs? Fiat? 500 is Fugly, 128 is a Miata hit with the ugly stick. And nothing Mopar makes is nicely styled, including Ram (boy racer to generic) and Challenger (lime green leisure suit). And they have garbage long term reliability too.
  2. They have great ads and that's about it. That's one thing Ford could seriously learn from. FCA's ads tug at you and that does get people interested. Ford it kind of getting there with the Built Ford Proud ads but they need to keep it up and get that emotional connection out there. You can see tons of ads for the Charger/Challenger but when was the last time you saw a Mustang ad? Yes, everyone knows the Mustang but it's the better car and they should advertise it. If Ford were to do what FCA is doing they would be crucified. FCA's platforms and engines are ancient. Sure profits are up because they are not investing in new stuff. Hemi is old and inefficient (and has issues), the Pentastar is a good engine but nothing stellar in the competition. They have no smaller engines, little electrification, and no real new platforms in the pipeline. Sure selling old crap makes profits go up. But they still have not figured out reliability so that eats into profits. Sorry, they should have been relegated to a footnote in automotive history in the 80s and again in 2008.
  3. What is there to admire? The powertrains in the FCA stuff are not that great. EcoDiesel has been junk with tons of issues, Hemi has issues lunching cams and other issues. Styling is subjective and IMHO the previous Ram looked better. Up until this refresh they were the least capable 1/2 ton and mediocre 3/4 to 1 ton with the Cummins carrying them. Jeep's platforms are not that much better. The cars are riding in platforms that are old enough to vote, relying on advertising and big power numbers to sell. So what is there to admire? Selling outdated junk with good ads? Ford would be better to emulate Toyota (perceived quality) and Subary (loyalty) than a company that has taken handouts twice, has abysmal quality, and is riding on ancient platforms. I'm not saying Ford has been perfect (Powershift, early EB 3.5 condensation/chains) but I'd bet $$ Ford has a lower TCO than nearly anything FCA. Reliability on all FCA products has been abysmal by most places that track things. Jeep has never been stellar and near the bottom. The most recent JD power survey of 3 year old vehicles bears this out.
  4. And the worst thing is they have a gorgeous digital cluster in the Mustang and Lincolns. Heck, in the Mustang it's a drop in replacement for the analog gauges so it's not like there would be a lot of re-engineering needed.
  5. Love to see a source for that. It's the result of great ads as the FCA products are and have always been crap.
  6. The Taurus has been quite reliable both in civilian and police use. Mine, while needing some stuff under warranty has been super reliable after the warranty. A few little things here and there (belt tensioner, AC blend motor come to mind) but all were simple repairs. Even at 130k I'd drive it cross country tomorrow. Agreed. When I first got it, people at work asked what new car I got. When I said 2010 Taurus they looked at me like I was an idiot. Then I said - see that red car there? That's the Taurus. Then the oohs and aahs came out. We did notice the cramped interior and the back seat room is tight for the size of the car. I kind of like the "cockpit" nature of the drivers's seat. It's most definitely a long distance cruiser for sure. I did PA - Orlando in a day -and it wasn't bad at all. Set the cruise and it was basically gas, bathroom and food until we got there. It's a shame they didn't advertise it and figure out how to tweak it over the past 9 years.
  7. Shame to see it go. My 2010 SHO has been one of the best cars I've owned. It's fast, quiet, loaded with tech, and at 130k has been RELIABLE. Yes, it's a pig, yes the back seats are cramped but the trunk is huge and it's an awesome highway cruiser - getting near 26 MPG and will fly past most cars on the road. For a 2009 non-luxury car it did have the tech - radar cruise, heated/cooled and massaging seats, auto high beams, cross traffic alert, blind spot, push button start, Sync/BT, nav, auto wipers. It's a little thing but I even love the rear sunshade. It's a shame Ford never kept updating it - it could have been a great vehicle
  8. Yeah - when I special ordered my Mustang it was delivered to the dealer with 2.3 miles on it (I saw it the day it came in) and when I picked it up it had around 6 miles on it. Lincoln/Ford should be able to tell you if it was part of a special QC which is not unheard of. But there is usually documentation to that on a sticker or piece of paper in the vehicle.
  9. I've always thought Diesels in the 1/2 tons are dumb. Where I am now, Diesel is around $1 more a gallon than regular old unleaded. When you have an engine like the EB 2.5 that gets close to Diesel MPG and better performance numbers why would I spend more on the expensive Diesel? Especially since it has a higher up front cost, higher ongoing maintenance, and lesser performance.... And then you have the EB 3.5 which will kill the Diesel in every metric but MPG.
  10. They early EB's were fine too. Had some minor issues but are still great powerplants. I've got 2 of them and both have been stellar. One, a 2010 SHO that just crossed 129k with the only engine "problem" was a bad knock sensor which was replaced under warranty. Also have a 2011 F150 with the EB 3.5. 93k and it's great and tows our 10k camper great with plenty of power. They truly are great engines - the only thing missing is the V8 rumble but I'll trade that for the feeling when you put your right foot into it.
  11. When you're FAT like the Mopars you need more power.
  12. itguy09

    2020 Ford Explorer

    I completely agree. That huge display looks like someone said "holy shit, we need this" and someone else said "we're too far along, just tack it up there". Then again I hate the trend of those "floating" displays. Every single one looks like an afterthought. It's a shame - the rest of the new Explorer is very very nice.
  13. LOL. Ram has dominance over nobody. Ford has better powertrain, better quality, better dependability, and arguably better styling than the RamArado.
  14. I still don't get why people care about the Analysts. Ford is more of a family company than a true public company. 3 Board members are Ford family members, The Class B stock (Ford Family) gets 40% voting power, etc. They will do what is in their best interests and basically can set the direction of the company. Us shareholders are just along for the ride. They are starting to do the right things - the new product is well received, the new ads are great, and hopefully quality will stay up and they won't lose the focus on product.
  15. itguy09

    F-150 with a new engine making 44 mpg

    What is the payload on the Diesel F150? I know early EcoDiesels had very, very subpar payload. IIRC one I saw as something like 750lbs of payload. My car has more payload than that! Although I don't get the Diesel light duty pickup. On the way home, Diesel was around $1 or more per gallon than regular gas at the stations. OUCH.