GT-Keith

Question is, will we see some of these make it to the production Coyote?

300lbs is 8% of the Mustang's mass, close to the 11% that the F150 lost. That's pretty significant and I agree that Ford won't incorporate aluminum with the MCE. With the 2020 'stang however, I can see that along with a new 4.0L TT V8 and maybe a lighter chassis overall. I think we'll also see the 2.7L or the 3.0L Ecoboost in a midlevel model.

Does he expect Ford to just invest and be competitive with Tesla's batteries in the near term? Li is a commodity and Tesla isn't the only name in the game and the other players aren't masquerading as a car company thats gushing red. I don't see them going from ~2,000 vehicles a month to ~40,000 a month in five years with just a handful of models, half of which are not "mass market" friendly. Tesla is a nice civil engineering project, though.

Gen 2 Ecoboost is amazing. Every review has fallen in love with it... Even those negatards Motor Trend. This engine has to be underrated because it almost matches the Gen 1 3.5L Ecoboost numbers in performance.

HOW COME I ALWAYS GET THE FEELS WHEN I COME TO THIS FORUM We all know what happened last year and now another coveted member had cancer. Think of how many members we have that haven't logged in because they have passed on or are too sick to do so and we have no way of knowing. I'm leaving for a little while now.

Image this with the F-150 tune or actually with the MKX tune(335hp & 370tq). And the upcoming 9-speed should knock a few tens off both their times. This does 0-60 in 5.6s and with a slightly higher tune the 4900lb F-150 XLT they tested did the deed in 5.7s I believe.

Akirby, what about net gen/CD5(?) I hear Ford is switching to FWD/RWD longitudinal platform like Audi for the next generation.

This thread turned out funnier than I intended

So everyone wants names. I do too, but what could they be? Please don't call the MKZ the Zephyr again..Please. Sounds like a seasoning. MKZ = Zenith MKS = Sentinel MKR = Continental Navigator = Navigator Aviator = Aviator MKX = Xenon? MKC = Centurion? The naming convention gives me 1950's nuclear family, retrofuturism vibes. Was this intentional by the early or late designers?

wait does Ford even own "sentinel"?

It can't be worse than having your entire lineup start with the letter "F" for some inane symbiosis with the "F" in Ford.(or maybe it can be :-)) Letters are more confusing than numbers because they have no intrinsic value like numbers. When you see a Mark 6 and a Mark 4, you can easily figure out the hierarchy and place them in order accordingly. At least make it easy for the consumer to decipher your lineup, so that you don't struggle to differentiate them yourself.(BMW, Merc) The Germans got carried away, but I think it could work out. Leave the names for the flagships...Navigator, Aviator, Continental, & Sentinel are great nameplates IMO.

Don't make any tweeners then. BMW seems to be the worst offender at creating redundancy in their lineup. Leave the mutant vehicles to Ford(Ford Flex, which was well received unlike the that Town Car thing its based on..)

Instead of the current alphabet soup naming scheme, what about an alphanumerical scheme: SUV/CUV take even numbers: MK2, MK4, MK6, etc...Cars take odd numbers: MK1, MK3, MK5, etc...With flagship cars keeping their names such as the Continental, Navigator, and a Lincoln Sentinel.

Yes and thankfully Ford has higher margins than GM with just half the brands.

@JPD That's true, however, the 2015 Mustang has almost erased Camaro's sales lead since going on sale a year ago. Another 2-3 months of strong sales and the Mustang will be in the lead for marketshare from gen 5 to gen 6. Deliveries since 2009: Camaro....524,864 Mustang...512,038 Over the past year, the Mustang has been averaging 4500 more sales every month. In three months, the Mustang would have erased Camaro's marketshare.