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  1. I really like the Aviator, but have you priced one out? The base Grand Touring for about $70k is pretty much in line with the market and I would be fine with that. However, if you want adaptive cruise control, you have to add a $7600 package! I think that is absurd. I'm just frustrated. I really wanted to swap my Volvo XC90 T8 PHEV for the Aviator GT, but this makes the price gap too big to justify.
  2. So, I was excited to see Ford finally made it available: https://shop.ford.com/build/explorer/2020/ .....but my excitement faded quicky. The Limited model was my target, being the only trim offering the hybrid powertrain. First, it confirmed you can no longer get the multi-contour seats on the Limited, but far worse was the revelation that they only allow you to get the minivan seats in the second row! The latter is a complete non-starter for me. Really disappointing.
  3. alpha1847

    2020 Explorer Order Guide

    Option packages on Limited are disappointing. Looks like they are taking away the ability to get the multi-contour seats. That's a real bummer for anyone looking at the Hybrid. I still don't get why they aren't offering the hybrid in Platinum trim either. I was counting on those massaging seats to convince my wife into giving up her XC90 T8 for the Explorer Hybrid.
  4. I would add a few more.... 1. The newer, Ti-VCT version of the 3.5 Ecoboost (this is used on the F-150, but the older, intake-only VCT versions are used everywhere else) 2. Adding the remaining features (other than HIDs) that you can get on the limited but not the sport - power folder rear seats and heated steering wheel 3. Multi-contour seats - why this is offered on the Taurus but not the Explorer baffles me. 4. 8-speed auto (maybe just on the lower-volume Sport for starters) 5. The ability to use your sync app for remote starting 6. Both exterior mirrors should be electrochromic and have auto-reverse tilt-down
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    Hybrid claims of 39mpg

    I think what most complainers do not understand is that EPA estimates are more for their relative values than their absolute values. There are far too many variables to predict what drivers will get in their own real world driving. The point is how different vehicles compare under the same conditions. Sure, the Fusion Hybrid is no lock to get 47, but neither is the Camry Hybrid a lock to get it's 41mpgs. At least the Fusion has a higher ceiling under the same conditions. The bottom line is that the Fusion will still be better than the Camry for almost everyone.
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    Making Push Button Start a Standard Feature

    At the very least, it's availability should be expanded on most models. Take the Explorer. It seems silly that it is not even an option on the XLT. It should be part of the My Ford Touch package, in my opinion. Dodge offers this option on all but the base Durango. For me, it is really the reason I have not bought one. I do not want to spend the money on a Limited just to get this option. While it is less of an issue for me, similar deal on the Fusion. To only offer it on the Titanium seems silly. Look at the competition. Ford acts like this is some new, exclusive option. They need to catch up.
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    2.0 Ecoboost with AWD

    While possible, that just doesn't seem probable. I just don't see how adding less than 200lbs and the little bit of drag from Ford's lightweight, FWD-biased system would drop the mileage that much. In most cases, these systems lost about 1 mpg in the city and 1-2 on the highway, and that's usually with a higher final drive ratio, which might not be needed with the Ecoboost. It has to be a supply issue, as they are trying to roll this out to the Explorer, Edge and Taurus all around the same time. I believe the Focus may get a version as well. I just wish Ford suggest it was in the works.
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    2.0 Ecoboost with AWD

    Maybe, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out AWD is popular in crossovers and SUVs. I think the success of the Ecoboost is a forgone conclusion. Ford has priced it as a reasonable upgrade.
  9. alpha1847

    2.0 Ecoboost with AWD

    My hope is that this is just about volume of 2.0 Ecoboost engines the first year. I doubt it's performance. Adding less than 200lbs and the very little drag that a modern, light-weight AWD system adds these days is unlikely to have a big impact. I can still complain about this, because it stops me from purchasing an otherwise fine vehicle. Again, my point is that I'd bet there are many other consumers like me.
  10. alpha1847

    2.0 Ecoboost with AWD

    I am not sure what you are getting at here - are you agreeing with me and helping to prove my point? The 2.0 Ecoboost will be an optional, premium engine. AWD is only planned to be offered with the base engine or the Sport. I'd be fine if they only offered it on the Limited 2.0 Ecoboost.
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    2.0 Ecoboost with AWD

    I can only hope that Ford's strategy to roll out this great new powertrain in FWD form only is a temporary one. I've read every defense of this strategy, and it usually focuses around people wanting to maximize absolute fuel economy and thus willing to settle for FWD. Additionally, I've heard all of the arguments that FWD is still fine for those of us who live in the snow belt, which is probably true 95% of the time. However, I am confident that there are plenty of consumers, like myself, who simply want AWD and would still like to improve fuel economy. It's not a question of absolute maximum, it's a question of improvement over what a consumer would otherwise buy. For me, that's a sedan or crossover/SUV with AWD. Whether you are talking about the Explorer (20/28) or Edge (21/30) with the 2.0 Ecoboost, the light-weight, low-drag, FWD-biased AWD system for either of those two vehicles would be unlikely to put a big dent in those numbers, and maybe close to no impact if Ford went with the same final drive ratio with the AWD, which you would think the low-end torque of the Ecoboost would allow. Even with the higher final drive with the AWD, you are probably talking about losing 1 mpg city and 2 mpg highway. I think an AWD Edge that hit 20/28 would be quite appealing (compared to 18/25 for the V6 AWD). That would be better than the smaller and lighter Kia Sportage Turbo (21/26). That would probably be enough for me to give up my RX400h AWD, because it would have virtually the same combined fuel economy (if they threw that powertrain into the MKX, I would already be at the Lincoln dealer). 19/26 for the Explorer would be a nice bump over the 17/23 of the V6 AWD too. I think Ford is underestimating the market for this powertrain. That includes it's application in the 2013 Taurus. There is an even larger shortage of fuel-efficient AWD sedans, in my opinion. You really have few options in that size/price range. A far less powerful Subaru Legacy or a smaller and more expensive Audi A4. I know there are many consumers like myself (because I have many friends who have the same exact mind on this) who would love to buy American, but simply want something where there are no competitive offerings from our American manufacturers. We seem to be getting CLOSER though, so my hope is that Ford will take the lead on correcting this.
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    will Ecoboost only be available on FWD edge?

    I just don't see the logic in this. If someone wants an AWD Edge, they are going to get AWD. The 2.0 Ecoboost would likely save just as much fuel from the V6 model in either form. People who need/want AWD would be just as interested in saving fuel.
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    Get rid of the SecuriCode keypad

    Not sure that's a good idea for models that have the intelligent key. If you leave that in your car, anyone would be able to open it......
  14. alpha1847

    Get rid of the SecuriCode keypad

    I probably should have just focused on the redesigned models with the intelligent access key. So, just speaking to the Edge/MKXs that have this, it's a mostly redundant feature. There aren't too many scenarios where you'd need to get into your car and not have the transponder in or around you. Even if you wanted to get into your car, you can't go anywhere without the key. I know there will be countless fringe cases, but I don't think it's worth the unsightly nature of it's implementation on the Edge.