brucelinc

I do not care for the side stripes proclaiming the "60 years." Otherwise, the rest of the package looks good to me.

Yeah, I sometimes forget that some folks use their Mustangs as a daily driver. Here in the upper midwest, it seems like everyone's daily is a truck. If they have a Mustang, it is more of a toy. I can see where an S550 or S650 Mustang would make a fine daily. I was very impressed with the comfort and refinement of mine.

If it was all about acceleration, we could just go electric. The Dodge fans are screaming bloody murder about the loss of their hemi in the upcoming Charger.

If a base engine is necessary in the Mustang for CAFE reasons, I think the 2.7 eco would have been great. It is smoother than the 4, sounds better and can get excellent mileage with appropriate gearing.

Yeah, I have known akirby since the Lincoln LS days so being called stupid by him is an honor. Lol

My dislike of the ecoboost Mustang has nothing to do with acceleration. They can even be tuned to run as fast or faster than a stock GT. As others have said, it is the sound, reputation, and heritage that is lacking.

Not as stupid as comparing a 2024 Mustang with a '98 V8 Cobra.

Yeah, I wouldn't take a 4 cylinder Mustang if they were giving them away. I am surprised the take rate is a high as it is. They are the subject of ridicule in my area.

AWD is not all about driving in the snowbelt. In the case of the Mustang, it is also about putting power down for acceleration. Many of those who park their Mustangs for the winter do so to protect it from salt, slush and grime....not because of traction. After owning and drag racing several different Mustangs, I think AWD would be very attractive for both traction and safety. It is pretty easy for a 480 HP or more RWD vehicle to become very squirrelly especially in the hands of an inexperienced driver. It is no accident that the upcoming Dodge Chargers will be AWD. Same could be said for high performance Porsches, BMWs, Audis, etc. Of course, mid-engine would also solve the traction problem, as in the Corvette, but it seems to me that AWD would make more sense.

The 420 HP version gets better highway mileage than the hemi while delivering more power and torque. The high output version has slightly lower EPA fuel economy ratings but has a whopping 145 more HP and over 100 lbs/ft of torque. There is nothing about these numbers that are out of line. If you want maximum towing capability or the strongest performance from a truck, you will use fuel.

I see no reason for the ICE version to weigh more than 4400 - 4500. My BMW weighs a tad over 4300. It is not quite as big as the Dodge but has a V8 and is a pretty robust piece of machinery. Just based on size alone, this doesn't seem like a Mustang competitor so I am not sure comparing acceleration or track times would even matter. I am not exactly sure what this big ICE two door competes with. I do admire them for stepping out on a limb with something different but time will tell if it makes sense from a business perspective.

This car is going to be BIG....121 inch wheelbase and 206 inches overall. It is interesting that they are going to offer the two door version. Large coupes were very popular many years ago but this will be one of the few available in today's market. The last Challenger was huge compared to the Mustang but this Charger even dwarfs the outgoing Challenger. They will really have no direct competitor but will they have any buyers? I do not like the fact that it is apparently a lift back and not a proper coupe with a trunk.

It might be but I won't really know if it is a downgrade until I examine and drive one. The BMW M550i is (was) brilliant for what I like but is no longer being built. When time to replace mine, I will need to see what is available. If the last Charger or Challenger Hellcat had been AWD, I would have considered one. The draw is a high performance midsize vehicle with an ICE engine, at a reasonable price. It would also need a high level of content and comfort.

The two door version with the high output ICE engine will be on my short list when time to replace my BMW M550i.

For years, we have spent time, money and energy to make our cars shine. Now we have a way to make them look dull for only $5000. Interesting how tastes and trends change.

They can keep the park assist and the $60 but don't EVER take away the 360 degree camera or the hands free trunk release.

Based on owner feedback on the F150 Facebook groups, the 5.0 is very reliable. The 3.5 ecoboost from some model years had cam phaser issues as evidenced by the attached document. https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2021/MC-10204046-0001.pdf

I have had all 3 of these engines in various vehicles although my 3.5 was the first gen version. The 3.5 has very little, if anything, in common with the 2.7 and 3.0 Nano engines. The Nano engines, although smaller, produce good power due primarily to higher boost in most applications. I have the 2.7 in my F150 and it is amazingly capable for such a small engine. It actually gets better mileage than the 3.0 that I had in a Continental in spite of the truck being heavier and less aerodynamic. Of course, the 10 speed transmission with the .64 overdrive helps the mileage.

Yeah, we had the Taurus version, too, which had the 3.5. It was my wife's daily driver. It was very roomy, surprisingly peppy and quite economical. It may have looked like a turd but was actually a very good car.

Really? I thought the later models just used a fan under the seats.

They are a far cry from the actual COOLED seats which used a peltier device. The seats in my 2020 MKS would frost your buttocks.

I cannot answer that question but here is what they say about it: The adaptive suspension on the ’23 Lincoln Corsair lets you effortlessly glide over bumpy roads and rougher terrain. The adaptive suspension system on the Corsair uses sensors that constantly monitor your motion, body movement, steering, and braking to improve your drive. This ensures you have a small luxury SUV that is nimble and feels like it is bolted to the road. Just guessing but if cameras were used to view the road ahead, it seems like they would say that. "Adaptive suspension" often means that the suspension and steering is relaxed when going straight and not making quick steering movements, but firms up when cornering, braking heavily, or making quick steering corrections.

That is because it is a BMW.

I would have preferred the Continental go a bit more toward the 4 door "coupe" profile....like this BMW 8 series.

I had a Continental from 2017 until late 2021. While the styling was not offensive, I thought it was much too bland. While the failure of the Continental could easily be blamed on consumer's move to utility vehicles, it also was not special enough in any way to attract many new buyers. Additionally, like many other models, it was never updated or improved throughout it's lifespan. It had some nice features....excellent comfortable 30 way seats, soft close doors, approach lighting, etc. It had good fit/finish and I liked mine, especially for long road trips. However, it was not as quiet as a luxury car should be nor did it have a particularly compliant ride quality. The 6 speed transmission did not match up well with the 3.0 twin-turbo. They built so much torque management into it that acceleration was a surge/lag, surge/lag affair. When I decided to replace my Conti and started shopping other brands, the Continental's shortcomings became even more clear. It was simply not up to par with BMW, Lexus, or Genesis in terms of ride, quietness or mechanical prowess. While I haven't driven any of the Lincoln utility vehicles, it appears that management is taking that market more seriously than they did the sedan market.