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Everest is T6. They'd have to run it down the line with Rangers and Broncos to be cost effective.
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I just read this article. Terrible idea on these big price cuts and huge incentives. Higher ATPs should be the focus. https://electrek.co/2024/02/20/ford-slashes-prices-2023-mustang-mach-e-incentives-for-f-150-lightning/
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Ford Discusses New Affordable EV Platform
2005Explorer replied to DeluxeStang's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
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Ford Discusses New Affordable EV Platform
2005Explorer replied to DeluxeStang's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Yeah, but the expensive ones are also turning out to be flops as well. The manufacturers need affordable BEVs that are also compelling to the consumer. Look at affordable ICE products that have been successful and follow that formula. Weird stuff doesn't sell. -
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tesla-gm-and-ford-price-cuts-suggest-that-electric-cars-may-be-at-a-dead-end-1091aa16 Everyone said Toyota was making the wrong decision prioritizing high mileage hybrids over BEV. At least at this stage and for the foreseeable future Toyota might have made the right choice instead of being drawn in by "shiny objects." https://fortune.com/asia/2024/01/24/toyota-chairman-akio-toyoda-ev-skepticism-thirty-percent-battery-electric-cars/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17061852701795&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Ffortune.com%2Fasia%2F2024%2F01%2F24%2Ftoyota-chairman-akio-toyoda-ev-skepticism-thirty-percent-battery-electric-cars%2F
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Hertz Selling 20,000 EVs, Will Replace with Gas-Powered Vehicles
2005Explorer replied to ice-capades's topic in E.V. Central
I recently watched a YouTube video where someone drove over an object on the road that would have caused a minor amount of repairable damage on an ICE vehicle completely total out a Kia BEV. The object caused a small dent in the battery pack and battery replacement was so high the car was totalled. If these kinds of things become common and repair costs are much higher than comparable ICE vehicles insurance cost will skyrocket. -
Ford December/Q4/2023 Sales Results
2005Explorer replied to rmc523's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Unfortunately the new UAW contract makes it even harder to build affordable vehicles in the US and make a profit. All affordable vehicle production needs to go to Mexico. Your ideas are good. -
Honestly I think there were 2 reasons that the Maverick went from standard hybrid to optional 1) battery supply and 2) the hybrid powertrain is likely more costly to make than the ICE powertrain. Ford might want to rethink plans to cancel the Escape and should probably be thinking about developing one more ICE/hybrid generation. The BEV "revolution" is just not happening yet. The whole Edge fiasco should make them re-think canceling popular products when the BEV replacement might not make any profit at this time. Too many money pits in the line-up long term = bankruptcy.
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Ford December/Q4/2023 Sales Results
2005Explorer replied to rmc523's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I'd have an extremely hard time believing even with some incentives the Edge isn't profitable. I bet it's a hell of a lot more profitable than the Mach E. I believe that's also taking incentives to sell right now. The Edge has a solid and still modern platform. They could have easily extended it with a facelift and an available high MPG hybrid option, but I guess Farley knows best. I just hope the replacement actually makes more profit than the Edge. Looking at the current state of the Ford Model e business I'm doubtful. -
Ford December/Q4/2023 Sales Results
2005Explorer replied to rmc523's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Ending production on a product like the Edge when it’s still a hot seller and definitely making money for Ford is a bad idea. They won’t do it, but how about rush a facelift and offer a high MPG hybrid model? Toyota keeps platforms around for years and just updates them. If it was a failing undesirable product I could understand, but the Edge still has life in it. I’m afraid what they are canceling the Edge for is going to be a slow selling money pit. -
The fact is automobile prices are rising much faster than wages are increasing. This coupled with the fact many automakers are trying to exit the affordable vehicle categories because they are low profit makes things even tougher for middle class consumers to buy new vehicles. Public transportation isn't really an option in some places, but if new vehicle prices keep rising at the rate we've seen over the last 2-3 years people will be quickly priced out.
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I think Ford is starting to realize that the whole transition to BEV is going to take much longer. I wanted to share because there has been a lot of discussion on this forum about the need for a stronger focus on hybrids right now. https://fordauthority.com/2023/12/ford-cfo-says-company-became-complacent-on-hybrids/
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The fact that the Escape and Bronco Sport are priced higher than the Maverick sort of takes you back to the early 90s when the Bronco was always more expensive than an F-150 or an Explorer was always more expensive than a Ranger. The lines have blurred today, but traditionally pickups were the cheapest entry compared to the SUV based on them.
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Ford November 2023 Sales
2005Explorer replied to akirby's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
We have a 2022 Maverick XLT AWD FX4 in our family. We made a 700 mile round trip in it to see family for Thanksgiving and averaged right at 30 MPG over the whole trip. On the way down we drove 70-80 MPH highway speeds and averaged over 30 MPG. On the way, back we were forced to drive solid ice/snow roads home in slippery mode at 55 MPH or less. That was a stressful 350 miles! I was thankful for AWD and the smart drive controls. I will say the optional Falken Wildpeak AT3W's were very helpful on the extremely bad roads. So although the Ecoboost won't return the kind of MPG the hybrid will it does have excellent performance and still does very well on fuel economy. My niece has a 2018 Escape with the 2.0 EcoBoost and I have no idea why, but the Maverick will beat it all day in fuel economy. Maybe the new Escape does better. I'm not sure. -
Compared to a higher trim level F-150 they are low profit. Now generally speaking lower profit margin vehicles can be very profitable, but you need volume. Interestingly it does appear from November sales data the more affordable vehicle lines are seeing better sales increases vs the expensive ones. 2024 might be an interesting year for auto sales.
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Ford November 2023 Sales
2005Explorer replied to akirby's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
You were also the person that wanted Ford to spin off it's Blue ICE operations into a new stand-alone company ASAP when they announced the whole Ford Blue and Model e division restructuring. Just imagine if Ford had went ahead with your plan right now. They'd be bankrupt. Heck they'll be bankrupt if they did that in the next few years. Heck not long ago you were calling for Ford to ax all ICE product in the next 2 to 3 years. -
Sorry I accidentally used a double negative and that messed it up. What I meant is I wouldn't be surprised to see Ford pull the plug on all affordable ICE or Hybrid vehicles soon and just focus on the high end. The profit margin is much better on the $60-70k+ large trucks and SUVs than stuff selling in the high $20k to mid $30k. When you can sell loaded F-150s at $70k with no discounts (or very limited) why mess with low profit margin vehicles like Escape, Bronco Sport and Maverick. Now I don't agree with that and I'd personally like to see more affordable vehicles offered, but with Ford down to such few affordable options it's almost pointless for them to keep competing in those markets. We bought my elderly father a new Maverick XLT Ecoboost with AWD and I think it's a great little pickup, but you have to sell a lot of them at MSRP compared to what you make on loaded F-150s and Expeditions. We might see some new affordable BEVs because that's the only way that market is ever going to take off, but I'd bet Ford is completely out of affordable ICE vehicles in the next 3-4 years. The Koreans and Japanese will fill the void for those vehicles at that point. They already have to a point.