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Everest is T6. They'd have to run it down the line with Rangers and Broncos to be cost effective.
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I just read this article. Terrible idea on these big price cuts and huge incentives. Higher ATPs should be the focus. https://electrek.co/2024/02/20/ford-slashes-prices-2023-mustang-mach-e-incentives-for-f-150-lightning/
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Ford Discusses New Affordable EV Platform
2005Explorer replied to DeluxeStang's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
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Ford Discusses New Affordable EV Platform
2005Explorer replied to DeluxeStang's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Yeah, but the expensive ones are also turning out to be flops as well. The manufacturers need affordable BEVs that are also compelling to the consumer. Look at affordable ICE products that have been successful and follow that formula. Weird stuff doesn't sell. -
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tesla-gm-and-ford-price-cuts-suggest-that-electric-cars-may-be-at-a-dead-end-1091aa16 Everyone said Toyota was making the wrong decision prioritizing high mileage hybrids over BEV. At least at this stage and for the foreseeable future Toyota might have made the right choice instead of being drawn in by "shiny objects." https://fortune.com/asia/2024/01/24/toyota-chairman-akio-toyoda-ev-skepticism-thirty-percent-battery-electric-cars/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17061852701795&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Ffortune.com%2Fasia%2F2024%2F01%2F24%2Ftoyota-chairman-akio-toyoda-ev-skepticism-thirty-percent-battery-electric-cars%2F
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Hertz Selling 20,000 EVs, Will Replace with Gas-Powered Vehicles
2005Explorer replied to ice-capades's topic in E.V. Central
I recently watched a YouTube video where someone drove over an object on the road that would have caused a minor amount of repairable damage on an ICE vehicle completely total out a Kia BEV. The object caused a small dent in the battery pack and battery replacement was so high the car was totalled. If these kinds of things become common and repair costs are much higher than comparable ICE vehicles insurance cost will skyrocket. -
Ford December/Q4/2023 Sales Results
2005Explorer replied to rmc523's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Unfortunately the new UAW contract makes it even harder to build affordable vehicles in the US and make a profit. All affordable vehicle production needs to go to Mexico. Your ideas are good. -
Honestly I think there were 2 reasons that the Maverick went from standard hybrid to optional 1) battery supply and 2) the hybrid powertrain is likely more costly to make than the ICE powertrain. Ford might want to rethink plans to cancel the Escape and should probably be thinking about developing one more ICE/hybrid generation. The BEV "revolution" is just not happening yet. The whole Edge fiasco should make them re-think canceling popular products when the BEV replacement might not make any profit at this time. Too many money pits in the line-up long term = bankruptcy.
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Ford December/Q4/2023 Sales Results
2005Explorer replied to rmc523's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I'd have an extremely hard time believing even with some incentives the Edge isn't profitable. I bet it's a hell of a lot more profitable than the Mach E. I believe that's also taking incentives to sell right now. The Edge has a solid and still modern platform. They could have easily extended it with a facelift and an available high MPG hybrid option, but I guess Farley knows best. I just hope the replacement actually makes more profit than the Edge. Looking at the current state of the Ford Model e business I'm doubtful. -
Ford December/Q4/2023 Sales Results
2005Explorer replied to rmc523's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Ending production on a product like the Edge when it’s still a hot seller and definitely making money for Ford is a bad idea. They won’t do it, but how about rush a facelift and offer a high MPG hybrid model? Toyota keeps platforms around for years and just updates them. If it was a failing undesirable product I could understand, but the Edge still has life in it. I’m afraid what they are canceling the Edge for is going to be a slow selling money pit. -
The fact is automobile prices are rising much faster than wages are increasing. This coupled with the fact many automakers are trying to exit the affordable vehicle categories because they are low profit makes things even tougher for middle class consumers to buy new vehicles. Public transportation isn't really an option in some places, but if new vehicle prices keep rising at the rate we've seen over the last 2-3 years people will be quickly priced out.